brian dunigan
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If you want to fish the Park, absolutely NO MATTER WHAT, do not under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES stay in Pigeon Forge or Sevierville.
I went to the GSMNP a few weeks ago for a vacation. We stayed on the Sevierville side of Pigeon Forge, intending to drive back and forth to the Park to fish.
Unfortunately, Pigeon Forge was hosting a gigantic car show for the entire weekend, and the entire town was gridlocked traffic from sunup until nearly midnight for the whole time I was there. Even the back roads were totally congested.
It took nearly THREE HOURS to drive the 14 miles between Pigeon Forge and the Park – each way!!! I had my wife and kids along, and we had planned on just meeting around lunch time each day to swap our single vehicle out so I could fish and she could shop and do other stuff. Due to the traffic, that plan meant that I only got to fish about 2.5 hours total for the entire vacation, instead of the 2.5 days I had planned.
I wish someone had warned me about the ridiculous traffic before I went. My hard-earned vacation was pretty much wasted as a result. If I ever go back there, the closest I’ll get is to stay in a hotel on the side of Gatlinburg closest to the Park.
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If this proves to be verified as an attack, I will swear out an affidavit in front of my paralegal and mail it to his county sheriff’s office within the hour of my learning for sure.
Call Senator Stevens and tell him someone’s trying to plug up Alaska’s Internet tubes.
1 Treadmill. Walked on twice after hearing the promise of “I’ll use it everyday.” How was I to know she meant use it everyday to hang the clothes on after taking them out of the dryer.
LMAO!!!
I hope you don’t mind – I’m going to have to borrow this joke from you.
About the only knowledge I have about the inner workings of computers is that they are magic boxes that occasionally send me nudie pictures.
That part about being turned into a Spam Zombie in 24 hours sounds pretty scary though.
With the crocs, you get to burn your feet in a polka-dot pattern instead of the standard sandal strap tanline pattern you get with the Tevas.
Ron, I’ve got a Browning Gold Hunter automatic 12 gauge that I’m not using (and I’m looking for extra money for that boat, you know…). I don’t really have much idea what it ought to sell for, but if you decide it might be something you want, make me an offer.
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A couple recent reports from Tennessee Wildlife Resources have made passing mention about looking into different types of easements to improve angler access to trout streams (maybe smallmouth as well).
This could TREMENDOUSLY improve access here, and I hope it’s not just talk.
Not constitutional, but don’t let Brian (who is a lawyer) drag you into a debate on it.
Curse you!!! Next time we fish together, I’m going to scare away all your trout just before you get them on the line! ;D
Seriously, I have researched this issue, and my official legal opinion is as follows:
Stream access laws are best defined by a word that starts with “cluster” and ends with something I can’t say here. Ask half a dozen people, and you’ll get half a dozen answers – most of them self-serving and based on almost comical leaps of interpretation. Beware of anyone who tells you they can give you an authoritative answer on the subject.
The most legally accurate summation I can give you is that on “navigable” waterways, the landowner can’t “unreasonably interfere” with “commerce,” and people passing through in “commerce” can’t “unreasonably interfere” with the landowner.
Every term above that I put into quotes is subject to interpretation and debate based on badly-written court opinions from 1805 that nobody in the modern world can read without developing a migraine.
Does “navigable” include a stream which is only floatable in a canoe, or one that is only floatable at high water part of the year, or do you have to be able to drive a barge down it? Does “commerce” mean the stream had to actually be historically used to move goods and transport people, or does it just mean that it’s possible to do so? If a stream is navigable, does that give you the right to fish along the way, or just paddle your boat on through?
The anwers to all these questions vary from state to state and are often subject to debate. That’s my take on it, anyway.
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I am a new member of this forum so if this subject has come up before, my apologies. I did a search and did not have any hits. I have been more than befuddled over the lack of consistency of the stream bottom laws, especially considering these issues have been addressed in the US constitution.
How are stream bottom laws addressed in the US Constitution?
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This is now where I have learned a very valuable lesson when traveling. DON’T RELY ON OTHER PEOPLE!!!!!! I choose not to bring any of my fishing gear as I was told that a friend of my sisters had everything and was more than willing to take me fishing on the flats as much as I wanted while I was there. This is where this dreadful story ends. I didn’t get to sniff the flats with a fly rod and I am trying really hard to not let it ruin my vacation even though it was a HUGE disappointment. Especially since I saw more Tarpon this year than any year I have ever visited!
OUCH!
I classify a steelhead as a rainbow trout that starts out in a river, migrates down to somewhere else big and deep, turns silver, eats a lot, grows much, much bigger than the resident trout, and then kindly returns to the river where it’s more convenient to catch them.
But I’m from Tennessee, so what do I know? 🙂
bd
I have caught a ton of walleye and sauger (a slightly smaller walleye cousin) on flies during their spring spawning runs around here.
All you need is a sink tip to get close to the bottom and a #4 or #2 chartreuse and white clouser.
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