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I went back and read most of the posts. Apparently he is talking about people actually punting fish back in the water. bd, you have a very valid point.
I use my foot all the time to nudge em in the direction they need to be going. I don’t know if that is what he is talking about, but I don’t think kicking someone in the nerts is the way to modify behavior that you don’t like. I say he should just go right to the guns. Leave a few bodies laying around and people will really start thinking…
Paul, we can only fish one fly in NY, except on the reservation, where you can rig up how you want. When I do use a dropper I like to make the distance between flies about the same distance apart as the length of the average fish I catch. Where I can use two flies that is 22-24″. I used to have a horrible problem with secondary foul hooks until I started doing this. Problem solved for the most part.
When I first got married and pre-yungin days we lived minutes from Chautauqua creek and I probably spent more time on it than I did at home. I still live within 20 minutes of it. I only fish it once in a while now because it is so hit and miss if it will be a zoo, or not. It certainly gets some tremendous numbers of fish and is worth a trip for you. Go during the week. The village of Westfield has a reservoir several miles up stream and they blow their filters into the stream every day at about 11:00 and it really muddies up for several hours. Go early, or better yet, wait until the afternoon and you can hit a magical dropping/clearing water period everyday and hopefully most of the people will be gone.
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Yep, I thought the 1st diagram was from Paul and must have been mid post when the 2nd was put up. Mark, sorry for calling you Paul. Cool diagrams.
What kind of water are you fishing this rig in? I have seen it’s praises sung many times. I just can’t see how you keep everything in line without diturbing the indicator every few feet. The float guys strive for the same drift, but they are stringing shot out all along the leader and balancing comparatively big floats. Plus they are using ginormous rods of 15+feet to check the float along it’s drift to compensate for the faster surface currents. Interesting.
Paul, sweet diagram.
I really think that you might not be getting down by attempting a right angle, exact depth of water presentation. I really think that this presentation is darn near impossible in all but slow pools. Try putting the indicator in-line and extending the distance from your shot to indicator to about 1.5-2.0X the depth of the water you are fishing. Put just enough weight on so that the indicator is going just slower than the surface currents. Your shot/weighted flies will be ticking and tumbling along and slowing it all down just a little bit and there will be a nice tight line to the indicator to transmit takes very quickly. Remember, the bottom currents, where the fish are and where you want your flies, are going slower than the surface currents. Watch and use the surface bubbles as speed indicators.
Liesenring lift? I am not sure if I use it, but I do like to let my nymphs swing up at the end of the drift. It is very effective at times and on some days I might get most takes as the fly starts to swing up.
Paul, Czech nymphing involves the use of finely tuned and weighted, dense flies, usually three of them. They are setup so that the heaviest is in the middle(I think). There is very little fly line outside of the rod tip and all that is used is a flip back up stream once your drift is over. The technique is used in fast, broken water where you can wade with in a few feet of the fish. The flies are flipped up stream and led down stream on a tight line, with the rod held parrallel to the water. The drifts only a few feet long before you flip back upstream again. It is a fast, shotgunning, cover lots of water technique and I guess it is deadly in the right kind of water. I have some excellent links at home and will post them later.
High stick nymphing is kind of on the same line, but you are making a little longer cast and raising the rod high as the flies drift past you and then lowering as it goes by. weight is added to the tippet as needed and no floating indicator is used. It will kind of look like you are drawing a church steeple in the air with your rod tip. I like to maintain a fairly tight line and feel the flies/shot tick along the bottom every few feet of the drift and I know I am on the bottom. The old saying that if you are not getting hung up once in a while then you are not fishing deep enough is very true.
Steve
Snaggle, let us know when you figure something out. I have been looking for something for the same application. Everythig I could find in an appropriate hoop size has a boat length handle. My wife got me a “Steelhead size” net for Christmas a few years ago. I really like it and will always keep it, but it is too small for even average sized fish.
I left my XP on top of my old Explorer in just the sock. When I looked over at the empty tube I realized what I did and went back to find it. I found it, but had run it over, probably twice. Sage quickly replaced it and sent the new one back in the same sock. The sock has the tread marks on it to this day and make a very good reminder every time I take the rod out of the tube.
Lou, hope the gear and your knee heal O.K.
Studs add a tremendous level of traction over plain felt. Try some short, hex-head sheet metal screws in your felts until you get some new boots. Simms is selling packages of screws for just this purpose and from what I can determine they are supposed to be harder than what you can buy at the hardware store. Your knees and gear will be much happier.
Cool. I have never seen anything like that before and we thought that was probably what it was, but also thought that maybe the tree was starting to rot and getting hollow and was lit up by someone. Pretty cool to know for certain that it was lightning.
Okie, I checked with everyone around me. It has been very windy for several days, so I even walked around the hood in case it may have blown off the porch. I hope fedex doesn’t give TFO any crap and reimburses them.
Trooper, that is the way it should be handled. I have had people tell me to just stay away from there because she is nuts and will always be a problem. Why should I be restrained from engaging in an activity that I am legally allowed to engage in, on property that I am legally allowed to be on becasue she is a nut and no one wants to deal with her? I know how I would have handled this and no one would have been arrested, except her.
Poudre, 49% of the homes in the city I work in are 2(+), family slum lord rentals. We get a tremendous amount of noise complaints and the first thing I always ask the complainant is if they asked their neighbor to quiet down. It has never occurred to a single one yet…
On this particular day I was sight fishing. I could really see them stacked up and cruising a slow little pool about 3 feet deep. Swinging a small black fly past em just seemed like the thing to do. I wish we could have stayed til dark. To answer your question, I was sight fishing at this particular time, but
