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Mike McKeownMemberWOW, what a great response, thank you Kevin…
I was trying to capture a bit of emotion, but I get what you’re saying. I needed to complete the story by telling it completely…
I was away for 9 fishing days and took nearly 800 photos, it is hard to find the good ones, but I have whittled it down to about 200, with about 100 more to delete. Ruthless, that all it is about… deleting the bad ones every morning, bad focus, bad composition, bad light, etc…
In every shooting session I tried to get the standard shots, but then I also tried something a little different, I like the idea of cutting the subject, I find it leaves a little to the imagination. I also like filling the frame with the subject, I have another one… see what you think…
There is a subtle difference between the 2…
Mike McKeownMemberBest line I have ever used, but be careful the grain only goes one way, the other way and burns you… I got all exited when I got a chase from a monster predatory fish, gave it a good fast strip and drew blood… missed the fish, it would have been a better story with a good pic.
Mike McKeownMemberHere is a great quote from a buddy of mine:
“My only fear is that when I die, my wife sells all my fishing gear for what I said I paid for it.”
That’s why I have appointed a curator… with integrity, got to have integrity…
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Mike McKeownMemberSo listen, Can You Just help me by making all my fish double in size, it just means my lies, seem truths…
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Mike McKeownMemberFrom a marketing student’s perspective, this is a fascinating thread. I think you guys have made some really insightful points, points that I’d imagine the guys who designed that ad would love to hear.
In the world of outdoor sports, it ultimately comes down to aspirational marketing. We all have an image that we aspire to. Even those who claim to “march to their own drummer” are a segment that marketers can try to reach. We purchase products and services that we believe attach us to that image (at least to some degree). In his writing, Geirach isn’t big on fancy stuff or “sex appeal,” and yet he builds a pretty attractive image around that notion, as evidenced by the success of his books.
As Zach pointed out, for many of us the image is admittedly unattainable. Still, we get some enjoyment out of being tied to it in some form or fashion. As stated before in this forum, Orvis has been a master at building image appeal. If you really break it down, what AEG/Loop and Orvis are trying to do with their marketing is actually pretty similar.
I love looking at what marketing is about…
Sales and Marketing specialist in the Information Technologies field, me, that is…
Few people know that until quite recently car manufactures adverts were not “really” intended to sell cars, but were more to reassure the recent purchaser of a car, that he/she had bought the right product… this was to create a brand loyal customer, who would not bad mouth the brand, and hopefully re purchase it latter. There were a few exceptions to the rule, but by-and-large, that was there intension…
Look at a few of the tag lines…
“Everything keeps going right, Toyota”
“… Sunny Skies and Chevrolet”I don’t know what your were, as they were country specific.
Back to fishing, I like the idea of fishing in the snow, sleet, pounding rain, etc… but know that where I live, it will seldom happen, also, when push came to shove, I doubt that I would… however; I own the right kit for it. And would love the photo opportunity it presents.
We all need to aspire to something, if aspiring to be an Alaskan Guide is for you, look no feather that the Simms Catalogue… I you want to catch fish???
Lastly, it is seldom about the fish, and more about the fishing… so what does fishing mean to you…
Me =
The thought that your trophy 14 inch fish is just around the next corner or that the black eagles, that have been stalking you for the last hour, might put on a display. Or the Lammergeyer, that has been circling might drop in for a closer look, or that I might stumble across the spoor of a Karakul or an Otter. The thought that it is not the fish, nor the fishing, not even the idea that a fish might rise, but purely in “the being there”, that makes it what it is… I am not a fisherman, I am a mountain wanderer, that fact that I wander along some remote streams making some rudimentary gestures with a fly rod, makes me a fisherman…
Mike McKeownMemberDo they have to be taken in the US???
and what about exotic species?? I got a great one of a Large mouth yellow???
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Mike McKeownMemberWouldnt miss it for the world
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Mike McKeownMemberHey Mike –
We were fishing, in that picture, in the snow and crud because that’s when that particular river fishes best. As far as setting up marketing-style shot goes, yes, I will freely admit to doing that. I take your point but I think your original feeling is also fair – high-end manufacturer’s gear allows us to best the elements and keep doing what we would otherwise be unable to do. In a day and age when most of us are cooped up in an office and don’t necessarily get to choose when our outdoor time will be, I think it’s important to be able to fish in terrible conditions.
Zach
Agreed, and I am greatful for breathable, waterproof, technical clothing, etc… it lets me fish when the others are home infrount of the fire… but I really should spend time with mates…
and, have you researched the older clothing, really interesting to see what did what and how… untreated wool, was used by fishermen, as it was pretty waterproof, and knitted correctly would keep the wearer dry all day…
and BTW, great picture, love the colors…
Mike McKeownMemberOn this line…
Check out this link…
Check the picture at the bottom…
Check out the processing power needed…
http://www.news.com/8301-13580_3-9882019-39.html?part=rss&tag=feed&subj=Underexposed
Mike McKeownMemberLugan…
I have been thinking about this for a while now.
Are we becoming extreme anglers?? Is it a marketing ploy by the fly fishing specific manufacturers’?? Do we, the end user, get dragged into their game, so to say??
We all buy the best we can afford, right? We spend big money on going to these exotic locations? And then when we get there we want the best fish available. So we brave the elements, we try new tactics, we think the fish are smarter than before, and thus we need new ways to catch them.
I am off on a little trip next week, 10 days of fishing bliss, but my mate who lives there tells me, it hasn’t stopped raining, so what’s the first thing that goes though my mind?? “I will fish in the rain, I paid good money for this serious rain jacket, it will be working hard for me, and if no one else wants to fish in the rain, I will fish by myself…” I had to take a step back and think, what the hell!!! That is insane, what I should have thought was, “Great, that will give me some time in the pub, with my mates…”
And that, I believe is where it is coming from… they sell us indestructible reels, ultra water proof breathable rain jackets and show us pictures of guys fishing these thing in the harshest of environments. We, the idiots with the gold cards, buy every cent of it.
My 2 Zimbabwe Cents… (go research that for a laugh)
even Zach can be acussed of doing it…

Mike McKeownMemberKev you can shure lay down some awesome lead/graphite…
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Mike McKeownMemberTheir adds are very good, but their kitt leave a bit to be desired… although it is getting better… and these types of inovations will bring them to where they shoul be.
But them maybe I am just old school??? 😉
Mike McKeownMemberMMmmm… that looks good, cant wait to down-load it tonight…
You guys have gotto view their web site…
Thank you sir.
Mike McKeownMemberWe spend our lives wishing them away… ;D
Mike McKeownMemberLooking forward to it Zach… I been in withdrawlllsssss……
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