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noneMemberThe Superfine Brook Trout is still available, isn’t it?
So what’s to duplicate?
noneMemberThe Orvis Superfine series (back in the 80’s just called Orvis graphite series) were the first high end rods I drooled over. The Tippet (7.6ft, #3) is my all time favourite light rod. I also have a Trout (8ft, #5). Both rods have this delightful Superfine grip with reel rings. It’s just like the long legs of a woman: too sexy!
I also have bamboo rod from Orvis, it’s even CALLED the Superfine. Sentimental value: it was built in 1968, my year of birth!I’ve never liked Orvis’ later series: HLS > Zero-weight. I dunno, they just don’t have that X-factor to me. I’m not sure Orvis is ever going to make an evergreen like the Superfine series…
noneMemberBut it’s not as rugged nor warm as the SST.
I got them both BTW
noneMemberSo, we need to look for the smallest packable & lightest breathable rain jacket.
Any special must be’s?
* short cut
* not too flashy color(s)
* velcro wristI think the outdoors shops have nice stuff. But they too can be expensive.
noneMemberI always thought Scott & their users were snobs. Just fishing with them to make them different from the whole world who fished with Sage.
T&T were the uber-snobs. Probably people who don’t even know how to fish. Just being exclusive…
Well, just joking guys.
noneMemberAny pictures of your rod Zach?
if you want to show off, then do it with pics! 🙂Jay
noneMemberI have used three boots the past 15 years or so: Simms Freestone.
I still can’t find other waders that fits this bill like the Freestone does:
* good ankle support
* roomy toe area
* tough as h*ll / durableThe Freestones are quite heavy though, but still nothing has come close.
Zach is right: there has been very few improvements in the wading boots section of the industry. Besides the Aqua soles, there hasn’t been much change. The older Simms ‘ski boots’ from the late 80’s were the only attempts to make a new boots. I never had those so I don’t know if they were good or not. I think Simms’ new G3 boots comes a bit close to those older ‘ski boots’?
I tried the Simms L2 boots in the shop but they are too narrow for me. And there is hardly any toe room and my toes will get ‘finger crossed’ in them and that HURTS!
The Patagona boots look great but if they are indeed vulnerale, then I’ll leave them at the stores. I did try them on once and I noticed there is hardly any ankle support (=padding).
So every time I again ended up with a new pair of Freestones.
noneMemberMan, those guys at Simms are losing it!….
That wader looks ugly… Whats all this with orange and black patches etc.
And why would anybody buy a wader for $700? You can buy a nice wader for $200-300, use it hard for 3-5 years and get a new one when its era is over for another $300. Surely you’ll still get the latest techonolgy built-in by then.
A tip: get the Patagonia Lightweight Waders at Madison River Fishing Company for $150 and it will serve you for MANY years to come.Their orange vest looks hideous! The vest they make these days are way far from the original vests. I still have an older Tippet Tender vest. These vests were made in Wyoming BTW.
noneMemberHow about a Classic reel like the original dark grey Orvis CFO III?
noneMemberAll of the reels you mentioned will work great. I mean are there ANY bad reels these days? It comes down to how much are you willing to pay and what is your personal esthetic preference?
Rod is dark grey so any dark grey would look great. But so will a ‘weird’ color reel.
noneMemberEd,
sent you email
Jay
noneMemberHi Zach,
Interesting that you mention that because Eden Cane is Scott Bamboo. Bernard Rasmouskas (sic)
Yes I know. Very smart move by Scott to get him in the team. This way Scott remains a brand with allure.
$2600 is a fair price given the market and the quality. As Bernard told me, “Every rod I make could get sucked right into Japan and no one would ever know about them. We’ve just cancelled several of our Japanese shops’ orders and pulled those rods back to America, because we want our name to be out there being fished. These aren’t just for display.” He’s right. They’re serious fishing sticks, the market is more than happy to pay what Scott is asking (he sold out 2007’s entire production at the show), and these rods will be worth a fortune over time. If I had the money, I’d buy.
That’s what I don’t like about bamboo fly rods. It is surrounded by folks who want it as an investment (and the makers charging them alike since people WILL pay for them) that it’s becoming out of reach for most people…
8’8″ is a traditional Scott thing that goes back quite a ways. The rod’s swing weight drops a tangible amount, so it’s lighter in hand and easier to throw all day, and the rod loses a slightly intangible amount of “mushiness” by cutting the top three inches out (of course, the taper is completely different–if they just whacked the tip the rod would be several line sizes heavier). I bought the rod for travel and dry fly fishing. Surprisingly, I’ve used it almost entirely with a Rio Nymph line and I do as much nymphing and streamer fishing on it as I do dry fly. During my time in Yellowstone, I threw #2 Zuddlers, Zonkers, and Woolies, #12 Madam Xs, #6 Chernobyl and Club Sandwich hoppers, and #4 Salmonflies, all on the G2 and changing only the leader array. I only switched to the Winston LTX 9′ #5 for this one pool on the Yellowstone when I knew I’d be tangling with some big fish (and we caught a chubby 20″er.)
So does this mean that you liked the 905 LESS than the 885?
I need to cast both side by side to see what suits me best I think
Cya,
Jay
noneMemberMine is the 8’8″ 5 weight, which is about as fine a trout fishing stick as I’ve ever held. I’m eyeing a 3 weight pretty closely. I’d love to get one of Scott’s cane sticks, but the $2600 price tag is way out of my reach for a long time.
That’s another mystery of Scott I don’t understand. Why a 8.8ft and a 9ft? That’s just a couple of inches difference?
Why did you get the 8.8ft over the 9ft?
The $2600 price tag for the bamboo is among the most expensive among bamboo rods.
You can get Eden cane rods at Codella’s site for around $2300. Still a humongous amount of money for a fishing pole…Jay
noneMember4) Winston introduces the new BIIt, a Boronized version of the WT. They aren’t pulling the WT yet but the guy told me he expects the LT and WT to be gone soon. I threw the rod and it has a Winston action, meaning nice for close work, but with little power for longer casts. Unlike the G2, which also works in close, the BIIt folds.
I’ve cast a G2 904 recently. Great smooth rod. Interesting was that I cast first with a #5 line (they were looking for the reel with the #4 line) and it cast very smooth, alive & deliberate. After changing it to a #4 line the rod changed into a rod without life, very flat casting. Anyone noticed this too?
Which rod is yours Zach?
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