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Aug 27, 2006 at 6:57 pm #12817
Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerNow to answer a few questions.
Carter, no, to my knowledge the company is still owned by Ross Hauck (sic?); they have simply changed design mentalities somehow.
Steve, if you are talking about the new top-end TFO, if I recall correctly it is a 10th anniversary rod that was also green. I can’t remember if it was from the Finesse or Professional lines but the fits and finish were comparable to, say, a top end St. Croix rod.
DPeurach, I did look at the new 7 weight G2.
Aug 27, 2006 at 8:39 pm #12818snakeman
MemberZach – Sounds good. I think your closing comment states exactly what fly fishing needs – companies that are run by and trying to gear themselves more toward a younger crowd. Anything to stimulate interest in the sport and bring it to more people is a good thing.
I am really interested to find out about new models of the Scott G2 – I really want to buy one, but can’t find one in a length yet that I really am happy with. Maybe I just need some more time casting them though. For now my A2 will have to do….
Jake
Aug 27, 2006 at 9:11 pm #12819anonymous
MemberZach,
Hey, thanks for your response to my question about the G2 907/4.
Aug 27, 2006 at 9:45 pm #12820
noneMember4) Winston introduces the new BIIt, a Boronized version of the WT. They aren’t pulling the WT yet but the guy told me he expects the LT and WT to be gone soon. I threw the rod and it has a Winston action, meaning nice for close work, but with little power for longer casts. Unlike the G2, which also works in close, the BIIt folds.
I’ve cast a G2 904 recently. Great smooth rod. Interesting was that I cast first with a #5 line (they were looking for the reel with the #4 line) and it cast very smooth, alive & deliberate. After changing it to a #4 line the rod changed into a rod without life, very flat casting. Anyone noticed this too?
Which rod is yours Zach?
Aug 27, 2006 at 9:55 pm #12821Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerMine is the 8’8″ 5 weight, which is about as fine a trout fishing stick as I’ve ever held.
Aug 27, 2006 at 10:04 pm #12822
noneMemberMine is the 8’8″ 5 weight, which is about as fine a trout fishing stick as I’ve ever held. I’m eyeing a 3 weight pretty closely. I’d love to get one of Scott’s cane sticks, but the $2600 price tag is way out of my reach for a long time.
That’s another mystery of Scott I don’t understand. Why a 8.8ft and a 9ft? That’s just a couple of inches difference?
Why did you get the 8.8ft over the 9ft?
The $2600 price tag for the bamboo is among the most expensive among bamboo rods.
You can get Eden cane rods at Codella’s site for around $2300. Still a humongous amount of money for a fishing pole…Jay
Aug 27, 2006 at 10:13 pm #12823Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerHey Jay –
Interesting that you mention that because Eden Cane is Scott Bamboo.
Aug 27, 2006 at 10:27 pm #12824
noneMemberHi Zach,
Interesting that you mention that because Eden Cane is Scott Bamboo. Bernard Rasmouskas (sic)
Yes I know. Very smart move by Scott to get him in the team. This way Scott remains a brand with allure.
$2600 is a fair price given the market and the quality. As Bernard told me, “Every rod I make could get sucked right into Japan and no one would ever know about them. We’ve just cancelled several of our Japanese shops’ orders and pulled those rods back to America, because we want our name to be out there being fished. These aren’t just for display.” He’s right. They’re serious fishing sticks, the market is more than happy to pay what Scott is asking (he sold out 2007’s entire production at the show), and these rods will be worth a fortune over time. If I had the money, I’d buy.
That’s what I don’t like about bamboo fly rods. It is surrounded by folks who want it as an investment (and the makers charging them alike since people WILL pay for them) that it’s becoming out of reach for most people…
8’8″ is a traditional Scott thing that goes back quite a ways. The rod’s swing weight drops a tangible amount, so it’s lighter in hand and easier to throw all day, and the rod loses a slightly intangible amount of “mushiness” by cutting the top three inches out (of course, the taper is completely different–if they just whacked the tip the rod would be several line sizes heavier). I bought the rod for travel and dry fly fishing. Surprisingly, I’ve used it almost entirely with a Rio Nymph line and I do as much nymphing and streamer fishing on it as I do dry fly. During my time in Yellowstone, I threw #2 Zuddlers, Zonkers, and Woolies, #12 Madam Xs, #6 Chernobyl and Club Sandwich hoppers, and #4 Salmonflies, all on the G2 and changing only the leader array. I only switched to the Winston LTX 9′ #5 for this one pool on the Yellowstone when I knew I’d be tangling with some big fish (and we caught a chubby 20″er.)
So does this mean that you liked the 905 LESS than the 885?
I need to cast both side by side to see what suits me best I think
Cya,
JayAug 28, 2006 at 12:59 am #12825david_dornblaser
MemberHey Zach,
Nice report.
Aug 28, 2006 at 2:39 am #12826Juan Ramirez
MemberZach-Nice site! I just joined so I can comment on the G2.
I just purchased three G2s. 8’8″ 3 wt, 8’8″ 4wt, and 8’8″ 5wt.
Aug 28, 2006 at 11:33 am #12827Jack Cummings
MemberThanks for the reposrts Zach!
Another board said the Ross Momentum weighs a ton. Did you heft it? I was thinking of selling my BG-3 (the early one with the machining marks and purple cast to the finish) to get a lighter reel.
Did you get any info on what Scientific Anglers is doing with their lines? I heard elsewhere they have new lines coming out… are they yet more ‘nitchy’ lines or something the general populace will use? Have they addressed the floatablility issues of their floating lines?
Defense mode: You tested the new BIIxT… isn’t mainly a rod built for close-in work and light presentation? Does it use the same cosmetics and components as the regular BIIx?
Thanks!
Aug 28, 2006 at 12:21 pm #12828Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerHey Jack –
The BIIt is a long way from the BIIx.
Aug 28, 2006 at 3:06 pm #12829Jack Cummings
MemberThanks Z-Man!
Aug 28, 2006 at 7:12 pm #12830john switow
MemberZach,
That show sounds like a ball.Aug 31, 2006 at 8:42 pm #12831Phil Monahan
MemberHey all,
It turns out that Steve Rajeff DID NOT win the Orvis-Saltwater Fly Fishing Casting Cup. We all thought he’d won, but he came in second to Jeff Wagner of Fort Collins, CO. On the women’s side, Rachel Finn, a guide from Upstate New York and Alaska, took the women’s crown. Both will be donating $3,750 to their favorite charities. I know that Rachel Finn chose Casting for Recovery as her charity, but I’m not sure of Jeff Wagner’s choice.
Just an update,
Phil
Aug 31, 2006 at 9:05 pm #12832Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerThanks for updating this Phil.
Aug 31, 2006 at 10:09 pm #12833Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerThis article is going to be fun to write.
Sep 1, 2006 at 12:51 am #12834Carter Simcoe
MemberYeah, those look nice.
Sep 1, 2006 at 3:02 am #12835Jack Cummings
MemberGOOD! Now I have an option when my Simms Guide Pants wear out!
I notice these pants have a zipper. That concerns me for two reasons, it’s just another gizmo to fail and the price of Simms waders went up a couple hundred beanski’s when they added that little detail.
Any word on the price of those trousers, Zack?Sep 1, 2006 at 3:47 am #12836Carter Simcoe
MemberI agree about the zipper being one more thing to fail but I still bet its nice when you want to take a piss.
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