Neal Osborn
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Tim,
The rubber is tied in with tips pointing backward toward the bend. The KEY is to do this in 3 or 4 smaller batches and kind of spin the rubber while increasing the tension on the thread (use 3/0 or thick stuff). I cut the first group quite short and build a head (ie clean up the forward wispy rubber) and then I tie another group and cut a bit closer to the eye and then build up a head and then again and . . .
Here is a crappy little picture I drew at work. Let me know if you have any questions.
Here are a few more Fodders I tied up for the carp fly swap. Added here for completeness of the thread.
Three wise men.
Crawfish Fodder, size 6.
Three prototype Fodder flies I tied tonight. The final fly will be the crawfish orange and green or brown blend. Please let me know if you would rather see all brown or all tan (I will defer to the experts). Sorry about the white balance, the colors are a bit off.
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Itinerant 300 yards to the creek behind my house. Sometimes when I’m on call I get so itchy to fish it’s all I can do not to go crazy.
BTW that’s a size 14 mini-wooly-bugger, ha.I am going to tie a Harry Fodder fly (since I just posted a thread on this fly and all . . . ). Tim said he wouldn’t mind if I tied this pattern.
So, ummhh . . . Michael Exl . . . what color should I tie? What size is best for carp (4 or 6 or smaller)?
Tim, the Hairy Fodder fly is a very very very good pattern. It was created by Craig Riendeau; if you ever get a chance to see him tie at a show it is worth it. Please visit this site http://www.warmfly.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=460.0 for details on tying. This is the older version and since he has started incorporating a neat little trick using a small rubber tubing at head that allows you to interchange different weights. I will post some pics on a new thread.
Also, the Hairy Fodder is what got me in to tying with 60 degree jig hooks.
Itinerant = One who travels from place to place; a member of the Travelling Community, whether settled or not; Habitually travelling from place to place
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/itinerantI really like that 3rd to the last picture of you holding the fish. The blur in the background gives it some animation effect.
BTW, what guide service did you use? I think I had the same guide.
Also, where there any fires?
Lee . . . what an awesome trip! Thanks for sharing. Now you have some good memories to fall back on when rounding at the hospital. You’ll need em 😉
I can’t remember if we talked about GNP before you left? I remember you were trying to figure out where go fishing, was this trip you decided? I had to cancel my annual October trip the GNP this year :'( but I will certainly be back next year. It is truly an unrecognized fly fishing destination. BTW, did you see any bears?
Sorry to post pictures on your thread, but GNP is where I first went horseback fly fishing! You got me excited. Great memories.
This is pretty much the final recipe I came up with. Honestly, this fly looks so good I went ahead and tied up a dozen. I am going bass fishing in Iowa in a few weeks, hopefully I can post some pics of the pigboat with a fish attached.
Recipe (variant)
Hook-Gamakatsu size 1 Bass Stinger hook.
Thread-Use a THICK thread, size 3/0 preferred, color to match fly. The thick thread allows you to build up the head. Ultra thread 140 works fine but 3/0 Uni thread is best.
Tail-Marabou
Chenille-any color, I used Ice chenille
Hackle-Big web Schlappen or Saddle – two required.
Rubber-Medium or fine (I think the round medium rubber works best, I tried Tenticles and fine diameter rubber but it just fowls on the hook. Also, I did not use the dubbing brush bench for the final flies.Marabou tail
Chenille body (thick and bulky)
Add some webby feathers if desired and palmer over the chenille.
Rubber (put on in three different groupings and cinch down TIGHTLY on the hook, avoid crowding the head.
Once you have made the rubber collar bind the rubber in back to get it away from the head. Then build up a big tapered head. Add some eyes. Coat the head; I used UV knot sense for the head but epoxy or Loon hard head would work also.
Finished flies! Thanks for the heads up Zach, this is a great pattern. Reminds me of when I used to tie crank bait and bass lures.
Basic White
Full Pimp
Electric Chicken
Others
Corey . . . I like the angle of the fish in that last picture and the fish looks shinny wet, great shot.
Is catching a carp a prerequisite to join the swap? Hahaha. I am still trying to land my first carp on a fly – seen many but no photos yet! I am willing to tie up whatever the swap master feels necessary – just give me a pattern and I will make it happen.
Awesome. I think your October time frame is perfect. I also love the idea of Hazel Creek since that is on my list of Must-Fish sites. The mountains are beautiful in the fall.
Here is a picture from Pisgah National Forest that Zach is talking about. This was October last fall during a private lesson I arranged with Richard Bernabe from this site. If we do this in the fall we could also have a photography session and maybe a photo contest (?).
Thanks Dusty. I’m just a detailed person in general and I love to learn from others. I like to add lots of detail and pictures to my posts because it allows others to really see what you are thinking and it generally adds to the overall tone of the post. Now that I have gotten good with the camera I can shoot some shots and post in less than 2-3 minutes. Otherwise, I’m just a scientist by trade and the detail part has come from years of publishing in peer reviewed journals; brutal to say the least. This is just pure enjoyment. Just so you know, I generally batch shoot a bunch of shots at once that I know will help convey a message in the future. Then I save them on the computer as stock photos. Thus some of my posts look very detailed but I often just grab shots as needed. I always have my camera on my tying bench.
BTW, those are Callaway bluegills, big sloppy genetic monsters.
