Calcasieu (Calcasien) Pigboat Variant
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Zach, you had mentioned something about the Calcasieu Pigboat fly? I admit this one is new to me but the pattern looks pretty simple http://cbfc0.tripod.com/calpigtn3.htm and http://www.flytyingforum.com/lofiversion/index.php/t7709.html. Kind of like a crank bait really.
You asked if the dubbing bench could spin rubber for this application and I think the answer is a resounding yes. I had to teach myself the pattern but it looks pretty good, probably will catch fish too 😉 Tell me how you fish this fly.
What color to pick, hhmmhhmm . . .
Excellent, Neal. I am not sure if that is the original Pigboat or not – I have only ever read about it, but when I saw your pattern that’s exactly what I was thinking. Yes, I think that’s pretty much a crankbait, isn’t it? (I don’t know my lures at all).
You’d fish it the same way we have been fishing for stripers – the legs pulse and go crazy. I would probably tie it in pure white and in “fire tiger,” which is mostly olive green, orange, and some red.
Zach
PS It was originally a bass pattern tied down in Louisiana by the same guy who tied the “.56-er” pattern.
Zach
tutorials for Cal. Pigboat:
http://warmwaterflytyer.com/corner.asp?page=2This is pretty much the final recipe I came up with. Honestly, this fly looks so good I went ahead and tied up a dozen. I am going bass fishing in Iowa in a few weeks, hopefully I can post some pics of the pigboat with a fish attached.
Recipe (variant)
Hook-Gamakatsu size 1 Bass Stinger hook.
Thread-Use a THICK thread, size 3/0 preferred, color to match fly. The thick thread allows you to build up the head. Ultra thread 140 works fine but 3/0 Uni thread is best.
Tail-Marabou
Chenille-any color, I used Ice chenille
Hackle-Big web Schlappen or Saddle – two required.
Rubber-Medium or fine (I think the round medium rubber works best, I tried Tenticles and fine diameter rubber but it just fowls on the hook. Also, I did not use the dubbing brush bench for the final flies.Marabou tail
Chenille body (thick and bulky)
Add some webby feathers if desired and palmer over the chenille.
Rubber (put on in three different groupings and cinch down TIGHTLY on the hook, avoid crowding the head.
Once you have made the rubber collar bind the rubber in back to get it away from the head. Then build up a big tapered head. Add some eyes. Coat the head; I used UV knot sense for the head but epoxy or Loon hard head would work also.
Finished flies! Thanks for the heads up Zach, this is a great pattern. Reminds me of when I used to tie crank bait and bass lures.
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Tim, the Hairy Fodder fly is a very very very good pattern. It was created by Craig Riendeau; if you ever get a chance to see him tie at a show it is worth it. Please visit this site http://www.warmfly.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=460.0 for details on tying. This is the older version and since he has started incorporating a neat little trick using a small rubber tubing at head that allows you to interchange different weights. I will post some pics on a new thread.
Also, the Hairy Fodder is what got me in to tying with 60 degree jig hooks.
You know, Neal + Tim, if you were to essentially lace two of those flies together in a lengthened articulated streamer, it would probably make a real nice pike/muskie/big brown trout fly.
Zach
Tim,
The rubber is tied in with tips pointing backward toward the bend. The KEY is to do this in 3 or 4 smaller batches and kind of spin the rubber while increasing the tension on the thread (use 3/0 or thick stuff). I cut the first group quite short and build a head (ie clean up the forward wispy rubber) and then I tie another group and cut a bit closer to the eye and then build up a head and then again and . . .
Here is a crappy little picture I drew at work. Let me know if you have any questions.
For real guys, you put a spinner on that and you have a spinnerbait that is easily castable with a fly rod.
lace two of those flies together in a lengthened articulated streamer
That’s basically what a sex dungeon or circus peanut is.
you put a spinner on that and you have a spinnerbait
Mike . . . I am going to try the spinner. Look at this fly from Dan Blanton’s site http://www.danblanton.com/spinsterstory.html. I have been wanting to try the Spinster Fly (originated by George Glazener) and the Pigboat would be the perfect fly for such an application.
Anyone know where to get some spinner blades for fly tying?
Anyone know where to get some spinner blades for fly tying?
Go to your basic sports store (Gander, Dicks, etc) and go to the section where you can make your own walleye rigs.
Thanks Tim. Also, found tons of blades at Do-It molds http://www.do-itmolds.com/category2.aspx?c=117. I use this company often and they have good customer service. Wow, only about $5 for 25 blades, looks like I will be making an order tonight.
Mike . . . I am going to try the spinner. Look at this fly from Dan Blanton’s site http://www.danblanton.com/spinsterstory.html. I have been wanting to try the Spinster Fly (originated by George Glazener) and the Pigboat would be the perfect fly for such an application.
Thats the type of blade I was thinking off.
The pattern you posted is just a barrel swivel tied to the hook with a split ring attaching the blade to the swivel.
Henry Cowen Coyote fly uses a nice colorado blade adn I’ve seen the fly in action http://www.henrycowenflyfishing.com/flies_08.html. I want an in-line low profile blade and not one on an angled arm like that mentioned above. I want to tie this in at the head and avoid bulk. Here’s what I’m going to order.
Barrel Swivel Size #12 (black)
http://www.do-itmolds.com/prodsnapswivel.aspx?c=239Split Ring Size #0 (nickel)
http://www.do-itmolds.com/prodsplitringclev.aspx?c=150Spinner Blade Size #00 (Hammered Colorado style in either gold or nickel)
http://www.do-itmolds.com/prodblades.aspx?c=138
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