John Bennett
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I’m normally pretty hesitant to critique other people photos. In large part because I don’t know if a perfect photo has ever been taken and if we’re to be so inclined could nit pick photos to death and secondly because…well my photos are far from perfect 🙂
Lastly, Photography is subjective. What 1 person “dislikes” or see’s as a flaw, another may love. Its like getting two economist to agree on anything. Or in deference to Zach getting two lawyers to agree on legal opinion  ;D
Over all I think they are pleasing. A few thought on a few of the images.
#3.
Really like this shot, however I think I would have preferred to see critical focus on the gent laying down trying not to spook the trout and the caster oof. He more than the caster is the story in the image…atleast to me.#5 I like
But like #3 I’d like to have seen another shot of the same with the angler in focus in the falls oof.
Not sure if it would work better, just would like to see both.#7.
Perfectly captures the moment.
It may have called for some fill flash..but thats nit picking.J
if you want to upload pics and make them available on the net the best thing you can do is make the files small…in the neiborhood of 800 x 550 and med quality. The result is an image thats a few hundred KB. While anyone can rip that and redisplay them, whatever its unlikely the file will of much use for anything other than web display.
Trying to print say an 8.5 by 11 would result in unsatifactory IQ if not abviously pixelated.
Using PS to watermark the image doesnt do a whole lot. Its linda like an alarm system on your house.
It will stop or deter the people looking for easy targets, it wont stop the determined, knowledgble ones.Never used one myself but Ive seen peoples results and recomendations on other sites, for what thats worth 🙂
Me, I dont know if I could work up the fortitude to try it that first time. Maybe on a old spare body first few times until I grew to trust it, but even then I tihnk Id always get the willies while submersing it.
Im going out with a Turkey hunter on a shoot in a few weeks. Trucking into the woods at 4am and out at noon. So I need everything from my 85mm f1.8 for set up shots at 5am, 24-70 f2.8 for staples, 180 f3.5 for some close work, 400mm + TC for long shots plus accessories.
Due to some unknowns (blind size) I’m going to have to pack my full kit as well as my tripod, and monood.
yeah macro is another kettle of fish 🙂
I struggle to get decent keeper rates. I want to buy some tubes to add to mine or sart using a reversed 50 but each time I think about it, i think about how hard it is to control the DoF with the bre len. Adding either of those just amplifies the problem….Time under my belt.I’m pretty sure Eric that the 24-105 is the newer generation of IS so its 3 stops. Older lenses like the 100-400L are 2 stops.
Phillip just to clarify, while I may not be “a big fan” of IS it is great to have..its just not the be all and en all manufactorers/sales clerks make it out to be. If you shoot at all from boats or toons is absolutely wonderful. But until you find out where/when you might favor one feature over another you cant really know for sure.
One thing I didnt factorin when I first started buyin is how much some bodies and leneses weight and while it might sound funny to suggest a 2pd lens will weigh you down…Trust me, it all adds up.
For people like us that spend alot of time in the outdoors and are active (maybe hiking 5miles) or whatever weight should factor in as well…etc,etc.Just a guess as I don’t use photobucket (anymore) but thats likely due to being a free host. If everyone uploaded 6 8 10 mb files……………..
So make copies of your jpegs in a folder called “photoB” and resize them to what would be PBs maximum size. If PB is displaying them as 800 x 550 than do it yourself to the copies.Your editing software very likely does a better job of resizing than PB, which from old experience a few years ago was horrid. If you use PS I gaurantee you it does a far better job 🙂
Phillip IS will only do so much for you.
IS reduces ( not eliminates) camera shake. So basically it comes down given X amount of light, your shutter speed will be Y. If Y is below your threshold to handhold and keep it steady IS *may* prevent shake.For long exposures such as creamy water you want the shutter open for seconds….not fractions of a second. The general rule of thumb for the average person 1/focal length…So if your at 24mm you should be able to hand hold for 1/25th of a second and avoid shake. A 4 second exposure? IS wont do much for you. Not to say it cant be done but I wouldnt bank on IS or shell out for it. bring your tripod if thats what your after, or better yet buy a manfrotto self standing monopod. I bring that sometimes, it does well as a camera support and can stand on its own and can pull double duty as a walkking/wading staff.
The best Ive managed of a long exposure not on a tripod is 1 second.
Likewise if your shooting action where you need high SSs a lens with IS isnt doing anything for you either. Â Where it will pay dividends is if your around the threshold of hand holdability. IS is insurance, not a bullet proof vest.
So if your walking along the bank and see a fox close by. You meter 1/50th @ f4, ISO 400 at 100mm. You should be able to take the shot. Another lens without IS would have to a) open the lens wider (may not be possible), bump the ISO ( might introduce noise depending on the body) or use a tripod. Did you bring one, do you have time?
Being on and around streams means forest canopy and as such light is intermittant, low, non existant.
But then again having f2.8 has advantages as well, like getting higher shutter speeds to “freeze” action without having to bump ISO or the narrower DoF than an f4 or f5.6.
Or f1.8
Its all about tradeoffs, enough to give you head aches.
I hemmed and hawed over which of those 2 to get for weeks and weeks trying to decide which ws right for me. Until you get more time under your belt I would avoid a major lens purchase. You wont buy a “bad” one, you might buy the wrong one “for you”.Im not a big IS fan. I think its a great feature but its pricey (same lens without IS would sell for about half) and over hyped by sales people and makers.
I love the marketing hype action shots that are blurred…..the without IS shot and then the crisp “with IS” shot…
lol
🙂If the “shooter” didnt have enough shutter speed to avoid shake, they didnt have enough to freeze the kayaker.
Phillip thats part of the problem that I was alluding to. People usually will suggest what they prefer irregardless of whther or not it suits the “buyers” needs.
Sigma/Tamron/Canon.
*Myself* I’ll only consider Canon with the exception of macro lenses. That said, there are some S and T lenses that likely are worthwhile and they cost about 50% less than the comparable Canon lens.
Is there a difference in end product. Yes I think so but a large one? No I dont think so. So for a person who doesnt plan on selling or printing posters why not save 50%??????Fast Glass.
Meaning lenses with wide maximum apertures. It allows more light to hit the medium (sensor/film), hense the term faster. So a 70-200 f2.8 is faster than the 70-200 f4.0I tend to shoot a lot of shallow depth of field myself. I also shoot a bunch of long exposures since my passion in fishing is native brook trout and those high gradient streams and waterfalls are so much fun at 1 to 3 seconds.
Heres a good example of what everyone needs to decide for themselves.
Canon 24-70 f2.8 appx $1500.00
Canon 24-105 f4 IS. appx $1.400.00Discounting any marginal IQ differences
If you prefer the shallow DoF you might opt for the 24-70 f2.8, but then again if you like long exposures of mountain streams where light tends to be low and if your bushwhacking to get there you might not want to have to carry a tripod, so IS might be high value to you. Not to mention the 24-70 f2.8 is a brick and very noticeably heavier than the 24-105.
My body, 24-70, 180mm macro and 85mm 1.8 are what I carry to streams/rivers. They weigh a bloody ton and its a workout…Not to mention my waders, boots, fanny pack (fly boxes) and rod…………….
In your shoes Id use the kit lens and consider either a 70-200 or 70-300 and/or a macro.
Its a pretty decent wide angle starter lens that will allow you to fill out focal lengths you dont have.
In the time it takes to get those you’ll develop your taste and discover your needs then you should look at replacing the 18-55 with any number of lenses in the 17-100mm f2.8 to f4.0Grats on the new toy Phillip.
When it comes to lenses theres a multitude of choices and thats just the Canon name brand, there are also Sigma and Tamron to consider.
What separates a kit lens from a consumer grade from a $1,500 24-70 f2.8L or $2,000 16-35?
Everything from optics and build quality (plastic vs metal) to f/stops to features like IS. All add to or subtract from the cost. Generally speaking the wider a maximum aperture you want the more its going to cost. Example a 400 f5.6 cost about $1,100 the 400 f2.8 about 5,000.You also want to factor in whether you want a WA or walk around. Some one who wants a WA might opt for the 16 -35, or 17-40L, someone else might opt for 24-70 and so on. Would you favor fast glass or IS. An example of this dilema is the 24-105 f4 IS vs 24-70 f2.8.
When it comes time to start deciding on lenses to get there are alot of factors to weigh. My best advice is use the 18-55 kit for a while and develop a sense of where your taste lie. You might find your a WA shooter and look hard at the 17-40 f4, or you might find you want fast glass rather than IS. Dont let us lead you, discover for yourself where your interest are.
The kit lens will serve you well. You can use that while you discover where your preferences are and in fact get some lenses that fill you out more like 70-200s or 70-300 consumer or macro and so on. Then you can think about replacing the kit lens. The one thing you want to avoid is buyers remorse.
At a certain point (price) you cant buy bad lenses, you can buy expensive lenses that don’t suit your style or needs.
Im a fast glass guy. I want the fastest lenses possible for any given focal length. I prefer the option of a shallow depth of field when isolating subjects and I often the need the higher Shutter Speeds aforded by fast glass.So I would naturally have a predisposed bias towards them
50mm 1.4 or 1.8
85mm 1.8
24-70 f2.8
70-200 f.28Doesnt mean they are right for *you*.
I must admit every time Ive read thread about this issue (theres quite a few here) for “you” guys Im both somewhat mistified and saddened things are getting to that point.
We have navigable water laws, and no doubt some land owners who are “prickly” as well. And while we too are losing access due to development its nowhere near the same scale, nor as much a flash point the issue seems to be becoming South of the border.
Enjoyable read Zach.
My 3 day weekend is a complete wash. Between spring thaws and 48 hours of rain everythin is flooded. Small clear creeks were raging chocolate milk up over their banks. Hopefully the sun will shine a bit day and while fishing is out I might get to the range and do some 3D shooting.
/prays for a break in he rainProcessing doesnt change it.
Ive been told on more than one occasion of a  famous photographer photogrpaher ( most of you have probably heard of him)  that employs a graphic artist to process all his images.
The magazine Im contributing  to wants my raw files so they can process how they see fit. The images are still mine to do what ever I want with including selling to direct competitors. The only exception are images that come as a result of paid assignments where they get 1 year (not perpetual) exclusive rights.
The only hurdle to me in this to me in deciding technically who has claim ( say it goes to court)
If it mounted on a tripod where person B litteraly does nothing but press the shutter I might say person A, but thats a might say. If its not mounted on a tripod than person B is the potographer as they ulitmately are the person composing the shot and deciding when to release the shutter ( in some photos a split second can make a difference). Despite the fact person A has made all the settings.
Is a camera in full auto mode the “photogrpaher” when someone picks it up and presses the button?
I didn’t start fly fishing until I was in my mid 30s.
For me I think it as much a case of spin/bait fishing simply not offering anything new anymore and I needed something new to challenge me.Little did I know when I bought that first 7′ 5wt orvis for small creeks, that Id soon be shelving all my existing gear and fishing for everything with flies thereafter. I have a ton of gear that hasnt seen the light of day in years
Its with great reget that I didnt come into it earlier, especially as when I was a teen Id inherited two 4 peice boo rods, with silk lines, woods cases and all which I abused and broke and eventually lost. Never knowing what it was I Â had or was doing. Blasphemy!
You could try colour selections and cooling filters in cs3.
Ive messed around with that a bit with similiar skies and have had mixed results. Not looking to drastically change the sky, just add a taste of colour (blue).Patrick.
1 more thought on this.I’m sure somewhere on the Westcoast there exist places where it would be possible to catch a “Steelhead” and a landlocked “rainbow”.
In my region my daily limit is 1.
Now lets suppose in the morning I caught a “steelhead” on some trib and put it in the cooler, then in the afternoon I caught a “rainbow” on a lake and likewise put that in the cooler . Then subsquently had my cooler searched by a CO?
Think Id get very far with a judge when I stated my case…”But your honour I clearly had 1 Steelhead and 1 Rainbow……”
A rose by any other name is still a rose.
That some steelhead “taste salt” and some don’t is a product of their geographical location and nothing else. Which came first the chicken (steelhead) or the egg (rainbow)?
what I’m saying is that you can and do have behavior identical to great lakes “steelhead” throughout the rainbow trouts native range and these fish are not called steelhead, the defining charicterist of steelhead is that they enter saltwater.
If were going to get anal and technical, then the opertative word is Anadromous which applies to all fishes that live mostly in salt and return to fresh to breed.
A)diadromous fish travel between salt and fresh water. (Greek: ‘Dia’ is between) There are three types of diadromous fish:
B)anadromous fish live in the sea mostly, breed in fresh water (Greek: ‘Ana’ is up; The noun is “anadromy”)
C)catadromous fish live in fresh water, breed in the sea (Greek: ‘Cata’ is down)
D)amphidromous fish move between fresh and salt water during some part of life cycle, but not for breeding (Greek: ‘Amphi’ is both)
E)potamodromous fish migrate within fresh water only. (Greek: ‘Potamos’ is river)
F)oceanodromous fish migrate within salt water only. (Greek: ‘Oceanos’ is ocean)
So the arguement about Chinooks, Pinks, Coho, Atlantics, et al is pertinent as the same the applies to them. Rainbow/Steelhead are not unique…its not a defining characteristic of the species, its a difference given their geological location.
Bottom line.
They are the same species, yes?If so
The only thing that “separates” a rainbow from a Steelhead is their geopgraphy vis a vie tribs that spill into oceans vs tribs that spill in lakes. Yes?
If so
For example Kings are also called chinook, tyee, spring, blackmouth, etc. However with all of these common names there is no defining characteristic beyond local jargon to
Seems to me like little more than yet another example of local jargon, where west coasters call them Steelehad and inlanders are ‘supposed” call them rainbow. Yet for some bizarre reason west coasters get their knickers in a knot over crossover in names unlike with Kings/Coho/Atlantics???
the *species* is not  different, only the geography.
What about the Brook Trout that are anadromous vs those that are potamodrous which some call coasters? Again same species, the only thing that separates them is the name given and used most frequently by the locals.
Incidentally I did find some obscure reference to “rainbow trout” being reserved only for rainbows thats live their entire lives in rivers vs “lake run” rainbows/steelhead.
Maybe a 3rd name should be in order. That way, we can all have a name to call our own which is dependant on our geographcial location?
Would Coaster Steel offend the west coast people?
While I understand where your coming from its never bothered me.Not sure butI think it just rolls off the tongue easier. Potato/Patato
Esox masquinongy Also known as
Musky, Lunge, MuskellungeStizostedion vitreum
Commonly referred to as Walleye.
also known as
Blue pike, dore, dory, glass-eye, gray pike, green pike, jack, jackfish, jack salmon, marble-eye, pickerel, pike, pike-perch, sauger, Susquchanna salmon, walleyed perch, walleyed pickerel, walleyed pike, white eye, yellow pickerel, yellow pike perchSalvelinus fontinalis
Commonly referred to as Brook Trout
Also known as
