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Thanks guys!
Damn Doug, I’m considering running to the store to buy some chocolate and tangerines.
Dave, don’t forget the rum!!! 😉
The Captain is on the counter!
“Also it is well established that Dunkard Creek WAS NOT related in anyway to gas drilling…The link I posted clears that up…
This drilling business is not going away, and I also dont buy the Cheney connection as all the conspiracy theorists out there do. That company is hardly even run by him, he is much more of a figure head, not to mention halliburton isn’t even a corporation doing ANY business in our area, Hess, Chesapeake and several others are…or does Cheney pull those strings too.
Your article points out the discharge as being the main culprit for the Dunkard kill, but doesn’t say what was discharged. The Dunkard Creek kill was a combination of factors, the major one being a discharge from a mine that was accepting used frac water for “disposal” into a deep injection well. Mine discharges combined with frac water resulted in high salinity levels and high TDS levels. Mix a freak discharge during low/warm water and the bloom that decimated that fishery occurred overnight. Again, gas drilling was involved and advocates are doing just as much of a one-sided job of presenting the facts as Josh Fox in Gasland.
As to your other quoted point, I think you are speaking mainly from your side of the state. Halliburton has a big presence here in the Southwestern corner of the state, much like Chesapeake has a large force up your way. Take a ride on I-79 from Morgantown to Slippery Rock one day and you are bound to see them amongst the other Texas, Oklahoma, Wyoming and Kansas licensed Super Duties and Rams that are “bringing jobs to Pennsylvania”. Cheney pulled strings for everyone when he lobbied to back off regulation.
Dave has every right to be honked off. I’m fumed about this and I own about 1/100 the land that he does. What’s going on right now is corruption at it’s finest and I’m confident that will come to light sooner or later.
If G. Anderson had anything to do with designing the Sage 490LL back in the day, I’d say he knows something.
Cameron, I rock the 1450 in desert tan (stays cooler than black) and carry a Tokina 12-24, 70-300, 50mm, 18-70 and my D80, spare battery, remote, and a few SD cards.
It’s all I need for now.
Haliburton has an operation in Greene County.
I was correcting you that Haliburton provides chemicals and does in fact have operations in PA.
Nothing, nothing, nothing should be exempt from the Clean Water Act.
DING DING! We have a winner! These laws are in place for a reason.
Colin: I’ll agree with you. Gasland was way too one sided for me and I really felt that the director blew a good chance to present a good valid argument.
I’ll leave the politics at this, but it needs to be pointed out. Was it just a coincidence that Dick Cheney was the chairman/CEO of Halliburton and resource extraction regulations relaxed as soon as he and GW got into office? He has just as much to do with gas extraction operations in PA as he does anywhere else. Enough about that…
I am all for responsible extraction, but the biggest thing that scares me about the whole situation is that nobody can say for sure what the hell is happening out there on so many levels. The only people that are absolutely sure that this whole process is safe are the people that stand to make money from it and you know how that goes. I can’t help but think that if many other industries were to put a product/process on the market that could cause damage on such a large scale, it would immediately be yanked.
Disposal/treatment of wastewater is a major issue. We have had issues here in Pittsburgh already. TDS (total dissolved solid) levels on the Monongahela and Youghiogheny rivers (Metro Pittsburgh’s water supply) have already been dangerously close to exceeding regulations (http://www.propublica.org/article/pennsylvanias-drilling-wastewater-released-to-streams-some-unaccounted-for).
There was also a major fishkill on Dunkard Creek, which was a prime piece of Musky water (http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09268/1000694-113.stm).
I could go on, but you get the point. There is a lot of wrongs going on in this “rush” to get the gas out of the ground and much of it could be avoided if the state would just slow the industry down and figure this out, get the infrastructure up to speed and hold the industry accountable for what is happening (road damages, dust control and any environmental/social issues that come of this). If you have been around a drilling area before, during and after drilling occurs, you would certainly understand what I mean.
Whew…
Colin,
Take a visit over here:
http://www.marcellus-shale.us/Cross_Creek_drilling.htmAnd then stop over the house and we can walk over to two frack sites and you can tell me first hand what you see.
Tim,
Don’t copy all of alaska- Pebble is a bad deal.
20 mile still has access for now, but up middle road- where the tomato patch is will go away with this shale gas.
Salmon is the bomb, and I’d eat it and do eat it. Steelhead tastes like a garbage dump.
I personally don’t like veal, but it isn’t going to jack me off if they offer it at a restaurant.
Doug, that looks goooood!
