Zach Matthews
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I only use a loop to loop for the tippet on my spey rod, and I usually end up with at least 6′ of “tippet.”
BD-
Your obstreperiety may be related to your ostentatious talents in mid-air knot tying.  🙂
I have been playing around with adding a couple wraps to the final tag wrap and it seems to greatly strengthen the knot, especially on a bigger hook, without increasing the size of the knot. Â The apparent smallness of this knot is related to the fact that instead of binding around the leading line, it binds around the top of the eye of the hook, making a neat little bundle. Â
I don’t think it is a double overhand knot, because the final tag wrap goes *back the other way.* Â I actually think it is closest to a Duncan’s Loop, only instead of wrapping back UP the overhand knot they both start with, it wraps down toward the eye. Â You can’t slip knot it this way like the Duncan’s Loop, but since the knot seats over the final locking wrap, it doesn’t need as much bulk. Â However, adding two more final wraps like a Duncan’s loop does seem to add strength.
Christ, I am going to need a video to describe this and I’m not making one!
🙂
Zach
PS This is definitely at its heart a modified Duncan’s Loop – a good knot!
BD-
I see what you are saying but as a practical matter you should usually be able to position the knot high enough up that the leader is thick and maintains some openness.
Mike-
Those 20+ pound stripers you catch I can see doing that, and maybe even some of the biggest browns you are pulling in, but for the most part if the knot is coming off the end of the line something else is at play. Â Maybe your silicone treatment is getting under the binding and preventing a good locking knot?
For stripers, I’d just use 50# braided loop to loops. Â Have you found Dan Blanton’s board yet?
Zach
I definitely hear you there, Dunfly.
However, in a broader sense, MY jumpshot is so inferior to either Iverson’s or Shaq’s that I can’t even claim a style (unless that style is ‘total hacker.’)
Hey Dunfly-
Probably most of the debate here would be about what constitutes “style” in the first play.