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Steve K.MemberHope they show up now…………sorry.
I used a rod I built on a Mike Brooks blank….McKenzie taper. It’s a 4 weight 7 1/2 foot long.
Steve K.MemberGreat photo Graham!!
What lens and camera were you using? I’m guessing an autofocus zoom of about 400mm???
Thanks for sharing!
Steve K.MemberMatt,
I want to know how your new lens works out. I’m in the market for the Nikon 80-400mm with image stabilization. It’s retiailing for about $1500 right now. I want to use it for bear photography next summer at Brooks Camp in Katmai National Park. Right now I’m making do with a heavy telephoto……a used Nikon 400mm F3.5 manual lens from a photog in Florida for $1100. It’s been professionally “chipped” so I do have matrix metering. It really works well for wildlife that is fairly still….gives you time to fine tune the focus. I plan to add a 1.7X teleconverter. Here’s a few:


Steve K.MemberI think it comes down to satisfaction and fulfillment. A newer flyfisherman might get a lot of satisfaction out of catching a 20-inch pellet fed fish (PFF) whereas, a more seasoned fisherman may get more satisfaction out of a 10-inch Appalachian brookie. To each his own. I will condemn neither.
Personally, I get more enjoyment out of studying the topos, strapping on the backpack and finding a backcountry stream where the wild ones are rising…no matter the size. I’ve only fished one of these “trophy streams” once and felt like I was hunting “exotics” on one of those fenced-in game preserves in Texas. Something just wasn’t right and it’s not at the top of my fishing memories list.
I think what gets a lot of us miffed is the noob that posts a grip-and-grin with a 20+ incher that was taken from a stream where supplemental feeding is prevalent without mentioning it. This is where the asterick comes in. Not unlike wildlife photography where it is taboo to post zoo pictures without stating it.
With regard to stocked fish, if we want to split hairs, all brown trout either are freshly stocked or decendants of stockers. π
And back to the original question…..have we heard of this?
It’s becoming the en vogue thing to do in Georgia if you can garner exclusive fishing rights on a section of stream. Charge $200 bones a day to let someone come in and C&R PFF till their hearts content. Heck, I even stock my little farm pond each Fall and feed throughout the winter, to be harvested in the Spring before warm water temps kill them. It provides some entertainement during the winter but not fulfilling for me.
Steve K.MemberGood advice from the others. I am partial to about 1/16 on average but can be as slow as 1 1/2 second…. a lot of elements come into play such as lighting conditions, water speed like dmk mentioned….although the water speed should be near constant on a waterfall (32 ft/sec squared if I remember right π I have my best results in lower light situations such as overcast/rainy days or early and late in the day. To much bright light and the detail in the white water will be blown out.
Check the Landscape Photography Forum on Fred Miranda’s site. There is always an active waterfall discussion going on.
Steve K.Member…along the lines of Phil and Carter’s comments….when it comes to salmon, and if money is tight….I’d spend the cheese on a reel with a good drag and skimp on the rod.
Steve K.MemberThe newer version looks completely different from my 30 year old version. They’ve changed the blank and thread color and put on a different grip and reelseat. In the catalog they call it “freshly updated” or some such nonsense. The old version has the grip that tapers down to the rod diameter kinda like some early Sage rods. I’m a little partial to that style.
Steve K.MemberCarter,
Go to http://www.drakemag.com and you’ll see the link to subscribe. They have a very…..ahem… “unique” bulletin board as well.
Steve K.MemberIn 1979, I purchased my first Orvis rod….a 4 weight Superfine Brook Trout. I’ve still got it and would not part with it. If Orvis can duplicate this rod’s action and beauty….they’ll have a sure winner!
Steve K.Member“…I will use it as an all around rod but mostly for Salmon and steelhead.
Let me say this about that.
Having just returned from Alaska and 3 weeks of reeling in way too many salmon, I’d suggest you don’t spend more than $200 for a salmon rod. Between the eight of us, we had four rods explode while playing fish. There were $600 Sages, a Winstons, and a Loomis. I used two rods I scored off Ebay for $100 each (an 8wt 4-piece Orvis Clearwater and a Diamondback Backwater) with no problems.
I mention this because we were using heavily weighted flies with large splitshot. Presentation was not an issue. A lot of chuck-and-duck π So…I’d suggest a cheaper rod for flinging heavy flies and lead as opposed to the more expensive rods. Now if you were using it for reds, bones, permit, etc…..I’d go with the more expensive rod.
Dos centavos…Drifter
Steve K.MemberGreat job TB! Nice composition and action photo. I’m no expert but….my only suggestion would be to play around with a polarizer.
Again…great shot….makes me wish I was in the Tetons!
Thanks for sharing….Drifter
Steve K.MemberWhat Poo said!
I’ve had mine for about 5 years now (it
Steve K.MemberGreat job Cameron. #4 is my favorite, I like the composition and color of the water and ‘bow. #5 is my next favorite π Hard to beat a good hand-rolled Dominican stogie.
What camera/lens were you using?
Steve K.MemberHogs,
Get to the A-Bar about an hour before closing time. Wear your best nut-hugger Levi’s and put some George Strait songs on the jukebox……oh wait….you want fishing advice right?
Here’s the latest from Henry’s Fork Anglers:
http://www.henrysforkanglers.com/fishingreport/index.html
In the Fall, I’ve always done better in the Box!
Steve K.MemberCameron,
I took my rods and reels to AK this summer in one of these DB Dun Double Case:
They have the 2-piece models as well. Closeouts at http://www.sierratradingpost.com from $19.99 to $39.99.
Steve K.Memberseewilliefish,
I’m headed up to GSMNP next month as well. More than likely I’ll be by myself. How many in your party? It may be that I could coincide with your trip and point out some likely spots if you’re interested. I’m strictly lightweight backpacking as opposed to car camping. I’m a firm believer that the quality of fishing goes up, the farther you get from your car.
Lemme know if you’re interested.
Drifter
Steve K.MemberBill,
#1 You can wet wade all the streams you’ve mentioned in October. The water level is typically low in October and the fish are spooky. I try to stay out of the water as much as possible. You’ll most likely get your feet wet when crossing the streams. Very few times do I stand in water over knee deep for any length of time. I use the nylon zip-off pants to fish and hike in. They dry really fast. For shoes, I wera a lightweight Patagonia felt soled boot with a pair of synthetic socks underneath. Leave the waders at home.
#2 I’d take the lightweight bag and sleep in a pair of thermal polypro underwear or fleece. A small knit cap goes a loooong way in kepping you warm at night. When my cabbage is warm, the rest of body is warm π
#3 You’re rods will do fine. I use a 7′ 6″ 4weight bamboo and a 7′ 10″ graphite 4-weight almost exclusively….but yours are great as well. It’s all about preference. Both will catch fish and you’re typically not chunking heavy streamers.
#4 There used to be One Fly Flyshop in Cherokee and Clampetts Hardware in Bryson City but I don’t know if they are still there. I fished those streams for over 20 years so I pretty much have everything covered. Make sure your terrestrials are stocked up, particularly ants and beetles. I have good luck in the fall on a yellow jacket that I tie.
Here I am wet wading in GSMNP in October:

Steve K.MemberPVC is heavy so I’d stay away from that. Look for one of those clear plastic cylinders that flourescent bulbs are packaged in. Home Depot will probably let you have a couple. Slide the rods and socks into the tube. Duct tape both ends and strap to your pack. This will provide a little extra protection with minimal weight.
Steve K.MemberI’ve had the same problem several years ago until I quit using those larg dry flies with the big synthetic wings. They look purdy but create the “helicopter effect” when casting and kink my tippet. The flies look good to the fisherman but they haven’t impressed the fish to any significant degree…as far as I can tell.
Steve K.MemberNice job Moose! What kind of streamer or fly did that beast inhale?
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