Mike Cline
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Mike,
Wonder were we could find a photo of Second Meadow of Slough ?
David
Boy! that would be an interesting picture in the dead of Winter. It is 7 miles as the crow flies from the NE Entrance Road/Slough creek road junction to the middle of the second meadow. The trail would be broken snow the entire way. You’d have to get there on skis or snowshoes and I suspect the snow would be upwards of 5-6′ deep the entire way. The pictures don’t do the depth of snow justice. Soda Butte Creek in the open had at least 4′ of snow on top of the banks and Slough Creek would have even more. (I suspect the creek would just be invisible under the snow) We are at between 85%-105% of average on snowpack throughout the region so this summer should be a good one again.
What seasons are you talking about using the tent?
REI Quarter Dome T1 Tent is smaller and lighter but the footprint is not much more than the bivy’s. but it really does hit the specs you are talking about with a total weight of 3 lbs. 4 oz.,
Chuck Yaeger would be pretty interesting too.
Morsie
I spent a day interviewing Chuck Yaeger in the early 1990s while I was in the USAF.
Good site about the history of fly fishing:
http://www.flyfishinghistory.com/contents.htm
Randy
If you like what Andrew Herd has done with this site, you really should get a copy of his book: The Fly: 2000 Years of Fly Fishing.
Is ebay a good source for rare book values? shannon
Shannon, probably the best online source for used book values is abebooks.com. This is a worldwide online brokerage of book sellers. The prices listed for any given titles will give you a pretty good idea of the real market value of a book. Whereas Ebay, as an auction can give you some idea, many uninformed bidders pay way too much for some titles that can actually be bought for less.
Wow Neal. I love books, especially old or rare ones. It’s the English major in me, I suppose. So your post intrigued me.
Any idea about what’s behind such a steep price?
Lauren,
I suspect its a pure numbers game.
I think alot of the little old trout towns seem to be going that way.
Bozeman has certainly gone upscale in the last decade, but Livingston, Gardiner, West Yellowstone and Twin Bridges are certainly the trout towns they always were–especially Twin Bridges.
Woolyworm asks a good question that can be evaluated against a lot of criteria. There’s great trout fishing in a lot of places and it is difficult to compare any one location to another. Additionally, the angler’s fishing style dictates much of how and where they fish and how much they enjoy it.
There are really four reasons why I believe Bozeman, Montana (or environs) is probably without peer when it comes to trout fishing (and other species) fishing opportunities.
1) A zillion miles (and acres) of accessible and premium trout water for all the major trout species
2) A very liberal and functional stream access law – access is great
3) A high probability of catching numerous 20” + fish every seasonWhat you get within a 100 mile radius of Bozeman, MT (Beyond 100 miles there’s a lot more)
Rivers and Lakes (miles in length or acres) Rainbow, Brown, Cutthroat, Brook Trout, Grayling, Smallmouth Bass, Walleye, Northern Pike, Whitefish. There are literally 100s of miles of smaller tributaries that are fishable. (my apologies if I missed someone’s favorite water)
Gallatin River (97)
East Gallatin River (42)
Jefferson River (77)
Madison River (132)
Hebgen Reservoir (12564)
Ennis Lake (3692)
Big Hole River (153)
Ruby River (97)
Beaverhead River (75)
Clark Canyon Reservoir (4815)
Dupuy’s, Armstrong, Nelson and Milesnick Spring Creeks
Yellowstone River (170)
Shields River (65)
Smith River (121)
Upper Missouri River (30)
Canyon Ferry, Holter Reservoirs on the Missouri (33535, 3667)
Hyalite Reservoir (158)
South Fork Musselshell River (42)
Stillwater River (70)
Boulder River (West) (77)
Upper end of Clark’s Fork (30)
Boulder River (East) (65)
90% of Yellowstone National Park waters
Henry’s Lake (Idaho)
Henry’s Fork (Idaho)Fly Shops – Seven in Bozeman, Five in Livingston, Eight in West Yellowstone, Two in Twin Bridges and countless others around the state.
Access to Montana streams is some of the best in the West. The Montana Stream Access law http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montana_Stream_Access_Law guarantees public access to major waters and most medium to large streams can be floated with canoes, kayaks, drift boats and rafts. Fishing in the smaller rivers may not be year round, but in the larger waters it is (as long as you’ve got long johns).
My vote is Bozeman – of course I am biased as I live here.
Great Mike,
I was on the Firehole on the July 4 weekend…………….the exact ellto your experience…….. and as an Aussie that was a big shock.Typically I don’t encounter ANYONE everytime I fish my favourite streams here…………
Yellowstone is a destination where no stone has gone unturned. Every guidebook and article ever written tells you when and where to go for the best fishing in Yellowstone. October is no exception. I was in one of my local fly shops last week and heard tales of 40 anglers lined up to to fish the Barns on the Madison–all the guidebooks say the Barns is the place to fish for big fish in October. When we drove out of the park on Sunday and north to Bozeman, you could tell by the number of cars and trucks at Baker’s Hole that the Barns was under assault.
In July, the Firehole is just another stream stressed by heat and tourists. In late October, its a dream stream for those willing to fish it.
BTW isn’t the phrase, “Utter solitude in Yellowstone” kind of an oxymoron? Honestly, I have not been there but understand it is usually packed with people this time of year? Did you see many fishers or did you get some good water to yourself?
The Firehole can be a crowded place in the Spring and early Fall, but by October, its 12 miles of water above the falls is pretty much deserted by Yellowstone standards. Even the popular and easily accessible stretches don’t see a lot of anglers and most of them just camp on a riffle and are easily bypassed.
I like to move and cover a lot of water–fishing mostly buggers and soft hackles to rising fish or pounding the undercuts. I find a confortable line in the middle of the stream and fish downstream alternating casts between the banks, I rare stay in one spot for more than a couple of casts. Sunday, the .7 mile stretch of Muleshoe and 1.4 mile stretch of Fountain Flats were essentially devoid of anglers.–Utter solitude!!
Mike’s Baby Back Ribs
Make the following Dry Rub (This keeps well in a sealed container):
• 1 Part Ground Cumin
• 1 Part Ground Mustard
• 1 Part Powdered Onion
• 1 Part Powdered Garlic
• ½ Part Powdered Herb (Oregano, Thyme, or Mixed)
• ¼ Part Chili Powder
Sprinkle Ribs with generous amount of rub on both sides
Double wrap ribs in Aluminum foil – (Insure no holes as there will be significant juices)
Cook ribs in 350° oven for 2 – 2.5 hours
Remove ribs from foil and drain juices
Place ribs on hot barbeque for 10-20 minutes to brown turning a couple of times while basting with favorite sauce.Its the cooking, not the sauce
Which Native Ultimate do you have? I am putting coins together to pick up a Native Ultimate 14.5 this winter and seeing yours isn’t making it any easier to not obsess about getting one sooner rather than later.
I have the Ultimate 12 Tegris–The primary reason is weight. The Tegris is only 36lbs which I can handle pretty well by myself. I am totally sold on the Ultimate profile which allows be to stand and cast on the bigger water and is a joy to wade with on the smaller water. On this recent trip, there was more than enough room to stash all the camping and other gear in dry bags. Its a great ride for rivers and flats.
A new backyard named Bozeman, MT that delivers opportunies for brownies like this at every turn. 100s of miles of productive streams for my favorite ride. A lifetime dream come true.
And the year doesn’t end until the streams and rivers ice up!
Nick,
As many of the posts are pointing you in the direction of libraries you should know that in Wyoming you have two of the natiionally prominent fly fishing collections:
The LaFontaine Angling Collection
University of Wyoming’s American Heritage Center, Rare Book Collection, Laramie, WYFrederick and Clara Toppan Angling Book Collection
University of Wyoming’s American Heritage Center, Rare Book CollectionPlus on the Wikipedia Article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annotated_bibliography_of_fly_fishing, there are 85 direct links to online PDF versions of the classics of 16th-early 20th century fly fishing literature.
If you want to stay in the Gardiner area, Parks Fly Shop: http://parksflyshop.com/ has a small cabin they rent and Richard Parks really knows YNP.
Nick,
Here’s a good bibliography on fly fishing to start out with: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annotated_bibliography_of_fly_fishing
Additionally, I would try and get my hands on all of Paul Schullery’s books, especially the American fly fishing-A History, Andrew Herd’s The Fly, and Tony Hayter’s: F.M. Halford and the Dry-Fly Revolution. Additionally, if you can find copies, Arnold Gingrich’s The Fishing in Print and the The Joys of Trout are excellent sources for fly fishing history.
Also, remember that most of the pre-1923 works are in the public domain and can be downloaded from at least one internet archive.
Good Luck.
