Brian Greer
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I agree that Bull Shoals is your best bet. But it does happen on the ‘Fork.
There really isn’t a sure-fire way to predict when it will happen. Some people say that a fast cold snap can do it. I’ve been down there several times during cold weather. We had cold days and really frigid nights with no shad action.
It’s almost luck of the draw. It does seem to kick off in the mornings. Watch for the sea gulls diving the surface for indication that shad is coming through the gen sets.
Brian
As a side note:
It looks like they have started minimum flow of the North Fork, too. Initial reports are saying about 6 more inches of water at no generation.
I guess that I should ad the SWPA / COE usual disclaimer that this “is subject to change.”
I looked at them on the BP website. It says that they draw 1 amp. That’s really not too bad at all. A marine battery could power a couple for a long while. Some of the reviews say that they didn’t last one outing. They would flicker and then die from water ingress. Some people say they work great. So it might be wise to check out the ‘waterproofness’ of these. Maybe fortifying any susceptible places with some goop to make them bullet-proof.
I really like that idea. Do you just let them float around or do you anchor them in place in some way?
That’s a pretty cool idea.
I’m curious about what sort of lighting you’ll be using? Along with what size battery?
And how long do you expect the battery to power the lights?Be sure to have some circuit protection/fuse at the + or – terminal.
One of these would be pretty useful on an annual Lake Norfork trip.
Brian
Zach,
I haven’t seen Rim with the minimum flow. So I can’t say about wading out to fish an island. Wading will be trickier. Rim is far enough downstream that you’ll of course have to pay attention to previous water releases.
Reports are saying that it’s holding fish better, particularly in the riffles at the top and bottom of the shoals. People are saying they are using a longer rig with a little more weight.
Tim nailed it.
Heavy rains really added some water to the lakes a couple weeks back. Temps were in the low 80’s….but the heat has returned and SWPA has been generating to help with demand.
One thing I would add, is that the minimum flow below Bull Shoals has really changed your options for wading. Minimum flow, with no generators, is going to be a lot different than previous history of just heading up to the dam and pretty much wading wherever you want.
I saw a Sierra Trading Post from the highway , in Cheyenne, while I was on my way to Yellowstone a few years back. It was too early for them to be open. I did wonder what the inside of the place looked like and how big it was.
Brian
Mike,
One again, those are outstanding. You got some really good shots of very nice brookies.
It’s really tough to capture all of the beauty of these streams but it looks like you got it.I spent a week there in May with my GF. She liked it so much, I think that we’re going for another week next year in conjunction with a trip to Virginia. I may hit you up for some tips before then.
Brian
Very cool. Great pics for being right off of the phone. I seriously need to upgrade.
I really like seeing those fish that no longer have their parr marks.
I spent a week there in May and had good luck. It’s a great place, though I do hate the thick foliage.
I totally agree Mark.
Things need to be cleared up. There is so much bad information going around it is silly.
You mentioned clarifying definitions and making them known and clear. That’s exactly what we need.I was at a good buddy’s house, close to where I grew up. There were several friends gathered there.
One guy is a land caretaker for an older lady who owns property along a stretch of stream. He was talking about the stream on the land he takes care of is named “Xxxxx Creek” and not “Xxxxx River”. According to him, that made it private. That really struck me.I hope some good comes from all of this.
Mark,
I agree that there is a lot of confusion and vagueness in MO about this sort of thing.
But if things get pushed to the point of going to court, the will absolutely look at precedences.This incident took place in Crawford county, Missouri on the Meramec River.
Meramec River – Crawford County – non-navigable, Slovensky v. O’Reilly, Mo., 233 S.W. 478 (1921);But there is also precedence for public easement on the Meramec.
While is may be private property, there is still right to be there because of the *public* easement.
Some people just don’t like easements. Many easements are there when people buy property.
Working in the power industry, we see this often enough. We may have to work on a piece of equipment that is on a farmers property. (Usually in a field, along a road, next to a fence.) The power company can come in and get to the line, piece of equipment, what have you. Sometimes the field may be planted, plowed, or whatever and the farmer may not be happy about it. But that’s the way it is.
I would like to see some more defined lines for where we can wade and float. But I would not like to see it all get hashed out in a big court battle. I don’t think that would bode well for us fishermen. Maybe a few bad apples would spoil it for the rest of us.
Zach,
That’s pretty much the thick and thin of it.
The guy shouldn’t have shot anyone….trespassing or not.
The guy might try to get off with self defense, but I don’t see that working out too well.One legal precedent on this river says that the adjacent land owner owns to the middle of the river.
Another legal precedent on this river provides for a public easement of the river. (Normally, the high water mark.) The public easement allows for floating and wading, for business or for pleasure.Ok, I’ll give it a shot.
Fishing in the Smokys:
My GF, I introduced to flyfishing, has one on. (This is the Jackson R. in Virginia)
This is a pic from last year on her first outing.
Pretty nice rainbow for a first-timer.
And…..a pic of my hound dog when he was younger.
He’s now just over a year old…and a lot bigger.
Mark,
I don’t *know* that booze was involved as I was not there.
But talk from the locals says that booze was involved. Knowing this river, it would be a pretty safe bet. This river sees a *lot* of floaters in the summer months.
It’s one of the closest places to St. Louis for people to float. Mix that in with all of the locals and you get a scene like Zach just pictured.This is pretty much in my neck of the woods.
The guy that got shot walked up the bank to take a leak. The land owner didn’t appreciate it and was tired of that sort of thing. Then there was a heated discussion about “who owns what” and that sort of thing. Things got even more heated and the land owner ended up shooting the guy.
First, the land owner shouldn’t have shot anyone.
Second, the victim shouldn’t have been trespassing.Good podcast, Zach. I listened to it yesterday while tying up some flies for an upcoming trip.
Capt. Edens has a lot of passion for fishing, you could hear it in the interview.
I had no idea that Georgia had that type of fishery. One of the reasons your podcasts are so good.
I don’t have a clue how mushroom hunting varies from region to region.
I’ve only looked for them in the Ozarks. That being said, the Ozark forests are mainly oak and hickory with a scattering of several other species of trees, depending on the area/terrain you are in.
Prime area for mushrooms in Missouri will be in wet shaded areas. This might be a creek or river bottom. Or it might just be a heavily shaded side of a steep hill that is kept moist by water seeping from a rocky outcrop.
But one of the keys is if you can find some elm or ash trees. That can really be the ticket. Some people say look under live trees, some people say damaged trees. But if you can get into an area with either ash or elm…..hopefully both, you should be in the money.
