Jon Conner
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Jon Conner
MemberI went back and looked at the other boat with the tabs and realized how very narrow the bottom is, so you really couldn’t put on a wider tab, however, I certainly would NOT recommend canting the tabs downward so they’re digging into the water like those in the picture, they might drop the bow, but at high expense in speed and boat handling, they would make poling horrible because the boat would always want to pivot around them, like a sea anchor,and they’d pull the transom down when backing up with the motor, not a well thought out solution.
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MemberZack,
Your motor weight is only 108lb, say thirty six more than the two stroke, if you move three feet forward with a long tiller extension you’ll more than compensate.
If your cavitation plate is below the line of the bottom you should raise the motor, Chris’s post indicates he was able to fix the whole problem with prop depth and angle and a couple of inches setback isn’t going to change trim appreciably.
The real purpose of trim tabs is to extend the planing surface, if it seems to be only the solution, I would want as much as I could get for my efforts, probably 10″ wide and make it line up perfectly flat with the bottom with a smooth transition, otherwise you will be incouraging bad manners in the water and causing drag.
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MemberHere’s a link for those tabs
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=107008&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&storeId=11151&storeNum=50366&subdeptNum=50415&classNum=50416#.USaE0mt5mSM
In addition, I would try to play with your motor trim angle before adding anything like tabs, you might try shimming out the clamp with a wedge shaped piece of wood or a bunch of shingles to see how much you need. Tabs are a bandaid, they are addressing the symptom not the disease, weight distribution and prop angle are the correct ways to flatten it out.
Have fun,
JCJon Conner
MemberA tiller extension would be a simple way to start with trim problem. Also, in some of the marine catalogs there are some cheap small trim tabs that are adjustable, but not remotely, I think you’re going have trouble getting yours at the right angle and they’ll either add a lot of drag or be ineffective.
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MemberZach,
Yes, what CCS reveals is interesting and your guy, speaking about the two six wts is on the right track, but does not mention that most freshwater lines conform to AFTMA specs and saltwater lines tend to run one or two wts over, so a moderate FW six wt would naturally have a lower ERN than its SW counterpart designed to cast a six wt SW line.
I have two 9.5′ six wt rods from the same manufacturer, they have similar feel, they both cast a six line, but the SW (faster taper) rod is happiest casting the overweight SW line.
Best,
JonJon Conner
MemberZach,
I completely get what you’re trying to do here, I just feel that it isn’t as really possible to pigeonhole action, there are just too many subjective aspects, you as much as said so in your reply. What I think the question should be, “what sort of rod action do you like for what kind of fishing?” because obviously there are many styles of fishing and many interpretations of what works best. I have several duplicate size/wt rods that have very different actions for different applications, so what do I prefer, it depends on whether I’m nymphing or sight fishing for stripers on the Cape, etc.
Best,
JCJon Conner
MemberZack,
You have just dived into a very deep pile of sloppy cow poop. Hope you can find your way out, there’s more misconception and misunderstanding of rod action than there is of women. 😉
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MemberI take issue with conventional wisdom about the shelf life of mono, and maintain that if it stored in a dry dark environment it will last for years, I keep all my spools till they’re gone, and some sizes take a while to use up, plus I often have multiple spools in several different vests, bags, boxes, car, etc. I also keep my trout rods strung up in my car or in my woodshed for weeks at a time with no problems observed. Could it be that the manufacturers are perpetuating a myth?
Best,
JCJon Conner
MemberCould be a Wirehaired Pointing Griffon also, hard to tell.
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MemberI get a “not found” message when I try to play the podcast???
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MemberJustin,
I don’t look for blues, so I guess that’s why I don’t see them so much. I did fish at night years ago, but sight fishing is my preference, I just feel that the visual aspect of fishing overwhelms my need to simply catch fish, but I do understand night fishing and I know it can be very exciting. In the nineties I used to go to the Vinyard in June and I have memories ofJon Conner
MemberColin, that was one of four jacks, from three different places.
Justin, never saw a blue, the striper population is down, and the sole
responsibility for that sad fact has to be laid on humans, pollution in the
Chesapeake, over harvest of baitfish (menhaden) and over harvest of
stripers of breeding size by recreational anglers and commercials, etc and many other environmental problems, it’s depressing.Tim, Monomoy is a different place since the cut between S Monomoy and S Beach closed off and stopped the exchange of water coming down through, no current, no fish. In addition, since there are fewer fish around, the distribution is much more spotty, where there used to fish everywhere, now there are  lots of previously great spots that are basically empty of fish, it makes finding them much more challenging.
I had a lucky time in that the spots that I fished were full of fish.
Jon Conner
MemberThere’s Chester, Gary LaFontaine’s dog, seen in many of his videos and also his running mate in his bid for THE presidency, as written up in one of the national weekly news mags, his qualifications were; he’s loyal, mute and neutered. A virtual bellwether for all would be fishing dogs.
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MemberMaybe his name is really Felson?
JCJon Conner
MemberThe Henry’s Fork with the Harrops has to be an all time highlight, what a great experience.
JCJon Conner
MemberNeal, How much does one have to drink to muster the cajones to fish something called an ‘electric chicken’?!
Only a person who’s fished one knows.
JCJon Conner
MemberIt’s the evil spawn of the jetski.
JCJon Conner
MemberBeautiful pictures.
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MemberThis may be a little different direction, but, from what I have garnered as to the requirements for a musky rod I would look for a used Scott Heliply in the weight you think would work, they’re tough, short,(which is an advantage in boats) and cast really easily with a wide range of lines and fly sizes. Last time I looked they were going for the $200 range on eBay. I have a beat up 8wt which is my favorite rod anytime I have to fish from a boat.
JCJon Conner
MemberI use Wullf lines and find them to float pretty well, I clean my line, but no grease, it’s a dirt magnet. I do grease my leader and that helps a lot to have the leader on top, not pulling the tip down. Loon Payette paste is great for leaders, and also for flies. Then when you want the leader to sink rub thoroughly with spit, best way I know.
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