Tamen coming to the states?
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After watching the natgeo clip on Tamen that Midcurrent featured, my first thoughts are how long it will be before someone brings these fish over to a stream on this side of the pond?
It would obviously take a few years (or 50) to get a trophy sized population.
We have already seen the Barramundi and Peacock Bass in FL.
I do not necessarily agree with messing with nature, I think that in a controlled enviroment (ie a historically troutless coldwater fishery) it might be a cool thing.
On a side note, Lenok dry fly action would be neat and they might co-habitate with salmo species here.
I would not like to see that happen. There is no such thing as a controlled state. Once it gets out into mother nature, there is no controlling it. Just my 2 cents.
yeah the more i think about it the more i agree. i do think that they would be fun but i dont want to play mother nature
We’ve had this discussion before and I frankly got lambasted for it elsewhere on the internet. My position was pretty simple: brown trout are not native to North America at all. Rainbow trout were once confined to some specific watersheds in the Pacific Northwest. The South certainly never had any trout at all, other than tiny brookies confined to the mountains.
From that perspective alone, I would like to see taimen stocked in one of the Southern tailwaters which have already been wholly turned into artificial, man-made environments anyway.
However, after talking to my biologist friends, and also watching what has happened with lakers in Yellowstone, I am also in the camp that says that bucket biology could not be controlled. If the taimen were cross-stocked with rainbows and browns in the South, in say the Little Red River, that’d really be no big loss as they’re all artificial anyway. But if the taimen was stocked in the Yellowstone? That could be catastrophic.
So, regrettably, I have also come to believe that stocking taimen is a bad idea. I do have one caveat however: if they were to approach extinction in their native range, I think it would then become worth it to stock them with some serious controls. They are too grand a fish to lose completely.
Zach
Back in the 1970s, Dave Whitlock and the Friends of the Little Red River worked out how to stock browns successfully in Arkansas using the Vibert Egg box.
How about the Asian Carp that were brought over here several years ago to keep algea to a minimum (in some structure) and they have now wrecked the river they “escaped” into.
someone dumped a caimen into a lake down the street from here
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-56767592.html
for one introduced organism example, all european starlings in the U.S. came from fewer than 100 individuals.
My buddy and I have been dreaming of conning someone into buying our “save the endangered huchen” species plan of stocking US rivers with them, of course ignoring the detrimental environmental effects in our “could you imagine” scenario. But the Upper Delaware system would be much more interesting if you added some European huchen to the brown trout fishery. 😀
Here’s a little one (just a google images pic):
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Taimen are thought to be an Asian subspecies of Huchen.
Or how about marble trout?
They’re suffering in Europe as well. Don’t we owe it to the poorly protected European species to save them from habitat destruction? Brown trout have done well. Hahaha.
The japanese huchen, a searun species, is critically endangered.
That Japanese Huchen may be the solution to the Asian Carp problem that is coming to the Great Lakes…
what about a place like argentina? Already loads of non native trout even salmon in the coastal waters…i think it would be an ideal place for introducing searun taimen as well.
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