Tim Angeli
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Some guys wont buy an item unless it’s in a certain price point and they think it’s better. I have seen lots of $100 dollar casters with $500 rods.
Well put.
Zach,
Good article. I’m interested to see if things change going into the future. I’ve always thought that the unconditional warranty is a nice piece of mind on a $650 fly rod. However, I also think that I would much rather pay less for a rod and get it insured elsewhere, especially with the added benfit of protection against theft and loss.
I’ve heard some surprising estimates about how much money the manufacturers might be able to knock off if rods were offered free of the warranty burden.
Do you mind sharing some of the numbers on what portion of the cost of a fly rod is attributed to the warranty? I know that you used the $75 figure in the article, but I get the impression that was just for examples sake. I’ve heard figures that are much larger than that (up to 50% of the cost of the rod). Any ideas on what the actual figure is?
Thanks,
TimWow, I was thinking about throwing up some of my point-and-shoot shots from yellowstone last year to get Lauren excited about getting back out there…I have now reconsidered after seeing the amazing shots all of you put up.
I’m by no means an expert, but I’ll try to answer your questions as best I can…
A couple of other questions.. is this an all day kind of thing, or only first light/last light.. or like saltwater bonefish where its best at midday with sun so you can see the fish?
It’s an all day kind of thing, but its best once the water has warmed up. I didn’t even get out there last time until after noon to let it warm up as much as possible. It helps to have some sun to make it easier to spot fish.
weighted or unweighted flies?
Weighted, but I would have an assortment of weighted flies to give yourself options depending on what water depth the fish are in. You need enough weight to get the fly down, but you don’t want so much weight that the splash spooks the fish. The fish are generally in 6″-2′ of water, so plan accordingly. I prefer patterns with lead or bead-chain eyes.
Like bonefishing, try to get the fly as close as possible without spooking, and then strip and hope they see it?
Exactly!
If you’re looking for a good breakfast, hit The Omlette Shoppe….it won’t disappoint. It’s on one of the side-streets of downtown TC. Cass St. I believe.
The Wings screwed up my weekend plans by failing to close out the series last night, but I’m still planning to make it up there Saturday. I’ll just have to catch the game up there or stop to watch it on the way. I’ll probably head to the same place (Old Mission Lighthouse) sometime around late morning or early afternoon on Saturday. I’ll PM you my cell number.
-Tim
Mick,
I’m relatively new to the carp scene, but from what I’ve heard the fish are only up on the flats until early July.
Steve,
I just typed a big long response and my connection crapped out when I went to post it. Here’s a short synopsis:
Rod – Anything from a 6wt. on up. I used a 9′ 8wt. Loomis Cross Current GLX. I would recommend a 7 or 8wt. for when the wind kicks up or when you’re throwing bigger flies.
Line – Floating of whatever taper your prefer. I used a 10lb flouro leader. I recommend using flouro. The majority of fish are in 6″-2′ of water, so a floating line is all you need.
Flies – Any of the increasingly prevalent carp patterns. Anything with natural colors and rubber legs worked well. Crayfish patterns, rubber legged nymphs, hex nymphs, sculpin patterns, etc. A Carp Tease (http://www.rainysflies.com/siteassist_images/flies/480/1747.jpg) was productive for me, among others. Sheila Sculpin is another good one. Any of the crayfish patterns work well (Whitlock’s Near ‘Nuff Crayfish for example).
Getting there – Go to Traverse City, turn north on M-37 and drive until you can’t go any further (about 18 miles from TC). It’s literally at the very point of Old Mission Peninsula. Park in the lot there for people visiting the lighthouse (it’s free) and walk out to the lake. That whole area is surrounded with flats that were loaded with carp when I was there. It should be that way for a couple of weeks still. Honestly, you can’t miss it.
I’d be happy to give you any other info, it’s not like its some secret location or anything. Go to the Omlette Shoppe for breakfast, you won’t regret it (downtown on Cass St. is the original one I believe). I forgot the obligatory IA food shot…I’ll try to get it next time.
-Tim
