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    Tim Pommer
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    May seem like a stupid question but…

    I’ve been tying lots of baitfish patterns.

    #56156

    usually means you’ve got too much stuff tied in on the sides.

    #56157
    Zach Matthews
    The Itinerant Angler

    What knot are you using?

    #56158

    That is also a very good suggestion.

    #56159
    Tim Pommer
    Member

    Hmm…Done all those things.

    #56160

    yeah there’s definitely a balance you’ve got to find, it varies material to material and and hook to hook though.  Make a prototype, fill up your bathtub and pull it around in there by hand (on some really light tippet) before making more.

    Only other thing I can really say on the matter is to tie relatively sparse.  Even if you’re trying to make a large profile fly, you’ll be better off with many sparse layers than just a couple of thick ones.  

    #56161
    Zach Matthews
    The Itinerant Angler

    Are you using offset hooks?

    Zach

    #56162
    Tim Pommer
    Member

    I think it is an imbalance.

    #56163

    too much material will probablly do it quicker than anything.

    #56164
    Avatar photoT. Wiles
    Member

    Tim, I’ve run into the same things on larger, stacked,fibered streamers.  Especially synthetics like EP fibers or tinsels for beefed-up Puglisi’s and flash flies:

    A few things I’ve found:

    1. A wider gap, shorter shank hook with mono loop for long-fibered streamers works well.

    2. Sliding flash tubing (like Flex Cord or Mylar) over a bundle body of hair or zonker strip can add a good symmetry to this style of fly.  Then I can add eyes and epoxy, and these usually swim right on.
    Like these:

    3. When using a longer shanked hook, try filling in the body with Estaz between stacked fiber layers—this gives a fuller profile with fewer top and bottom layers to tie in.

    Mostly like Carter said,

    I often go overboard on my larger streamers when I’m imagining the attack of the gnarliest predator in the water.  Frequently, I have to trim the fly on the water to correct for overbulking.

    Travis

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