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    Zach Matthews
    The Itinerant Angler

    …you guys need to check out Serial. It is unreal. Basically True Detective meets radio. Talent everywhere; it’s disgusting. That stuff never comes out.

    Zach

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    Avatar photoalldone88
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    What way do you swing? Guilty vs. not guilty? Not whether or not he should have been found guilty, but did he actually do it?

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    Zach Matthews
    The Itinerant Angler

    I believe there was plenty of reasonable doubt and that he would have been acquitted had his trial attorney been competent. I’m a trial lawyer myself, and based on the clips I heard, she was really, really annoying, and that jury probably hated her. That is textbook ineffectiveness. I’ve also seen a lot of older attorneys struggle with issues of technology, like explaining the cell tower situation, when they really don’t have a fundamental understanding themselves. As trial counsel your primary job is to teach and explain.

    As to his actual guilt, I agree with Koenig’s assistant: there would have to have been way too many coincidences breaking against him that day for any reasonable person to think he wasn’t involved. Now as to what actually happened, I have a lot of questions. Jay’s lying, Adnan’s also lying, something was going down.

    My theory is that Hae realized her ex-boyfriend was actually running drugs with or for Jay, not just buying weed from him, and may have threatened to rat them out, and possibly not just those two guys. Adnan might have killed her or Jay might have or one of their dealer contacts might have, but whoever did it or was involved can likely still get to Adnan in jail. His only incentive to play this game with Koenig and let her dig into his story is if he was involved in a murder, but *differently involved,* and he may be hoping that Koenig will uncover the real story so he can actually tell what happened without being shanked.

    The cops dropped the ball with Jay, and badly. He should not have been given a plea deal, and they should have put a tail on him and apped his cell phone to see what all this other criminal activity he alluded to was. He admitted to burying a body and he walks?

    Zach

    #88531
    Avatar photoalldone88
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    I agree that the trial was not handled well. They had Jays testimony about the days timeline before he knew the locations of the cell phone was traceable. Seems like they could have put both of them away for some time.
    Although I felt she didn’t cover race well in the times she mentions it in her podcast, I assume it was a factor in the way Adnan was treated and perceived by the cops/jury/etc. Maybe its why they went solely for Adnan, and used Jay to get him?

    It was a great podcast, and the question about why Adnan and Jay are both lying is very intriguing. Seems to me that Adnan is very confident that they cant pin a single piece of solid or physical evidence on him, and plans to run with that nugget forever. Maybe you are right about Jay and some cronies doing it, and Adnan may have not have been present for the crime, but he still knows what really happened.

    Probably the thing I liked most about the serial podcast is what most people end up hating; the way it ended. People are so used to tv shows, books, and movies concluding with a twist, conclusion, or some happy and formal ending.

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