Ok so I caught this post and I tried my hand at the sex dungeon. This is the first one:

Then with a bit of experimentation I decided that the spun deer hair did two things to the fly that I didn’t like. First it made it take longer to tie, second it also made it sink slower, so I replaced it with palmers chenille. On both flies I made it so that the hooks rode up in the water. I found that this allowed me to run the bottom without getting hung as often. So here is gen 2:

So far the results have been acceptable
