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shane broadby.
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Sep 24, 2007 at 7:35 pm #20082
Carter Simcoe
MemberMy real problem with the canned hunts is the potential to spread disease. I haven’t heard much about this being a problem in Africa yet (haven’t really researched it either), Chronic Wasting Disease is defintely bordering on a pandemic over here though, and there are many cases of infected farming operations.
It’s a tricky balance though, to at least some degree I can agree that a lion shot in a pen is one less shot in the wild but then at some point they are just going to say “sorry no more permits this year”, of course you’ve got to hope they’ve got the alotment right and the big cats are a tricky thing to manage I’m told.
Sep 24, 2007 at 8:08 pm #20083Eric DeWitt
MemberGood insight, carter, i haven’t really looked into it as far as disease is concerned, more that idea of fair chase. We discussed the SA lion hunts quite a bit, and was told it has become quite an industry with full on breeding operations etc. I was also told by the owner of the safari company that we hunted with that if you want to hunt wild lion or elephant, do it in the next 2-3 yrs, because its days are numbered, FWIW.
The only real restriction that i know of for hunting leopards is that it has to be a male. That was the source of some serious stress as the PH tried to look for the family jewels on a cat at 60 yds. In national parks you can’t shoot tham at night with a light, but on privately owned land that doesn’t apply.
Sep 24, 2007 at 8:30 pm #20084Carter Simcoe
MemberThat was the source of some serious stress as the PH tried to look for the family jewels on a cat at 60 yds.
I can see that, ha.
Damn, I want to go so bad.
Sep 24, 2007 at 11:41 pm #20085anonymous
MemberEric et al
Obviously I’m not a hunter – lol
You have all certainly provided much food for thought and some very valid personal insights into the sport and concepts on natural resource management.
Eric – your images are both powerfull / evocative and highly personal and as a photographer
Sep 25, 2007 at 9:16 pm #20086
Mike McKeownMemberFirstly, you have some great photos there.
Secondly, you come all this way to Johannesburg, and don’t let me take you out to catch some Yellow Fish????
Large Mouth Yellow Fish


Small Mouth Yellow Fish


Thirdly, I am not a hunter and I cannot comment on the hunts, but I can comment on the process…
Southern Africa is an intense area of the world, while we have some of the most beautiful landscapes and incredibly beautiful animals, we have our problems. Southern Africa has the highs AID’s rate in the world, there are tyrants running our neighboring countries and crime is out of control, including the highest murder and rape stats globally!!
Having said that, tourism is a way to build our economy, hunting and hunters bring revenue to the poorest of the poor, but it really needs to managed better. Currently the rich are raping it and the poor are getting shafted, again…
Anyway, I think I am just pissed that I missed you…
Mike
Oct 10, 2007 at 4:40 pm #20087shane broadby
MemberIt’s great to see a fishing forum, with a bit of hunting input
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