Nikon D400 should be coming soon.
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Mar 9, 2011 at 1:52 pm #8526
Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerThat’s going to be a really solid camera.
Mar 9, 2011 at 2:34 pm #72130Ronnie Moore
MemberHave you heard of a release date. I know there has been a lot of talk about this in that past. Then they released the D300S and talk slowed again.
Mar 9, 2011 at 2:45 pm #72131Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerNo but it will probably be announced this year.
Mar 9, 2011 at 3:44 pm #72132Douglas Barnes
MemberI’ve heard late summer on the new bodies. Just picked up a D7000 a couple weeks ago to ease my D300’s playing time (she’s getting a little rough around the edges). Truly amazed at the files and can’t wait to delve into some vid action. What I can’t wait for is a replacement for my D700 as it should be over 20mp.
Mar 9, 2011 at 6:05 pm #72133
J A Y M O R RMemberLooking forward to the new line up and I as well am waiting. As Doug mentions, I hear late August being closer to the release date of both.
I am hoping for a D4. I love my D700 (Mini D3)! It has been a wonderful camera and I plan to continue shooting on it for quite some time. I am not interested in the rumors surrounding the D800, simply because it is touted to smack the 5DMKII around and I am not looking for a slow FPS high MP camera. The D800 specs rumor a bigger sensor with more MP, slower FPS, full 1080 vid with some compromise to the low-light capabilities that the D700 has now. No thanks, I will hold out for the big daddy that should be a game changer 😉
Great time to be a Nikonian!
Mar 9, 2011 at 6:30 pm #72134
Roy ConleyMemberNikon’s oldest, in production, bodies are the D700 (7/1/2008), D3X (12/1/2008), D300S (7/3/2009) and D3S (11/2009). If Nikon maintains the two year cycle on replacing bodies, we should see, at least, a D800 FX body and a D400 DX body this year. I am not sure of the benefit of many more MP. The D7000’s 16MP is acknowledged to have diffraction problems above f8.
The current D700 is a D3 sensor in a near D300 body. If Nikon puts a D3S type sensor in the D800 are you sure you will want a $2,000 D400 vs the $3,000 D800?
Roy
Mar 9, 2011 at 8:02 pm #72135
J A Y M O R RMemberTo go along with what Roy said, typically Nikon will offer the higher end Pro bodies first as to not cannibalize sales. If they learned anything from the D700….”togs” were pissed when they dropped coin on the D3, and then have a smaller body with the same sensor come out in the D700 for half the cost.
I think the D400 will have it’s place.
Mar 10, 2011 at 12:30 am #72136willmilne
MemberI’m in the same boat as Zach – using a D200 and looking at upgrading and less than tempted by the D300.
As a pretty much macro/photomicrography user I am interested if Nikon has stepped up to the plate with the proposed D400 and taken a page fom Canon with their implementation of live view and mirror lockup .
There is a good explanation of the advantages of the Canon approach in particular with high magnification work here –
http://krebsmicro.com/Canon_EFSC/index.html
While no doubt it is a small user group it would have me considering a Canon body to hook up to my microscope rather than a Nikon D200 upgrade one and simply keep my D200 for field/general off tripod /bashing around /non macro stuff.
Will
Mar 10, 2011 at 1:00 am #72137
Roy ConleyMemberI’m in the same boat as Zach – using a D200 and looking at upgrading and less than tempted by the D300.
As a pretty much macro/photomicrography user I am interested if Nikon has stepped up to the plate with the proposed D400 and taken a page fom Canon with their implementation of live view and mirror lockup .
Will
How is Canon’s version of live view and mirror lock up different than what is in the D300s?
Roy
Mar 10, 2011 at 1:18 am #72138Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerD400 also offers a smaller physical build with pro-grade weathersealing. I am not hauling around a flagship body ever. Too much backpacking. I wasn’t even wild about the size of the D700; that thing is pretty huge, too.
Incidentally I saw a used D700 body on Amazon for $1000. That’s pretty much a steal.
Zach
Mar 10, 2011 at 1:26 am #72139willmilne
MemberRoy- I’ll turn the question around 🙂 Does the D300s offer the same vibration reducing advantages in the use of live view and mirror lockup as described here-
http://krebsmicro.com/Canon_EFSC/index.html
If so I would be very interested in seeing the same type of example images that support that, as I have yet to see them.
I have a modest investment in Nikon field lenses-
300 mm f2.8
180 mm f2.8
20mm f2.8
105 micro f2.8
12-24 mm f4
55mm micro f2.8and a modest investment in –
Olympus research grade microscope with the D200 ( no live view so I have to cature and view)
Mar 10, 2011 at 2:58 am #72140tom cannon
MemberI just want a Nikon 85mm 1.2 which is not going to happen anytime soon. The 85mm1.4
Mar 10, 2011 at 3:11 am #72141Douglas Barnes
MemberD400 also offers a smaller physical build with pro-grade weathersealing. I am not hauling around a flagship body ever. Too much backpacking. I wasn’t even wild about the size of the D700; that thing is pretty huge, too….
Zach
Yes for DX and sports shooters, the D400 seems to be the go-to body to be. The extra telephoto reach in nice too and it should be 18-20+mp. Sweet! For me, I was tempted to get a D3x just for the resolution but couldn’t see slapping down $8k for the luxury. Plus like Zach I value portability over speed and the D3’s a beast. Ended up with a D700 instead which is perfect for what I do.
Mar 10, 2011 at 5:50 pm #72142
Roy ConleyMemberD400 also offers a smaller physical build with pro-grade weathersealing. I am not hauling around a flagship body ever. Too much backpacking. I wasn’t even wild about the size of the D700; that thing is pretty huge, too.
Incidentally I saw a used D700 body on Amazon for $1000. That’s pretty much a steal.
Zach
Zach, there is a lot of talk that Nikon might move the D400 to a pro body. Many pros apparently are pushing for one. If so, high resolution non vertical grip bodies will be the D7000 and the D700 replacement.
Time will tell.
Mar 10, 2011 at 10:53 pm #72143Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerRoy –
I have great faith in the Japanese fear of change.
Zach
Mar 10, 2011 at 10:57 pm #72144Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerI agree with Tom.
Ideal magazine specs would be 17 inches X 300 pixels = 5100 wide by 11 inches x 300 pixels = 3300 tall.
5100 X 3300 is 16.8 megapixels.
There is absolutely no need to go any higher for journalism purposes.
Mar 11, 2011 at 12:28 am #72145Douglas Barnes
MemberI agree with Tom.
Ideal magazine specs would be 17 inches X 300 pixels = 5100 wide by 11 inches x 300 pixels = 3300 tall.
5100 X 3300 is 16.8 megapixels.
There is absolutely no need to go any higher for journalism purposes. I don’t want to store images bigger than that; if I ended up with a chip that could go bigger I’d turn down the res to save hard drive space. I don’t want a bigger chip for the reasons Tom points out.
I want a pro-sealed, small form factor, 16.8 megapixel body with a 100% viewfinder, 1080p video, live view for macro, and the same damn remote control I had on my D70. Really anything beyond that is overkill for me. I have been waiting for this camera for 10 years and it looks like I may finally get it.
Zach
Subtract .7 megapixel and you have described the D7000. This thing’s pretty beefy and well sealed (way better than the D70-90, but not quite as buff (and heavy) as a D3/300/700). Mag alloy body. 100% viewfinder. 1080p video w/ full time auto focus. And yes, that little old remote you bought for your D70 work with it too. Bonus! All for $1100 instead of the $2K+ the D400 is gonna cost. Just go for the D7000 Zach, do it man!
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Mar 11, 2011 at 2:50 am #72146Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerWell I will look at it Doug.
Mar 11, 2011 at 4:24 am #72147
Roy ConleyMemberERRR– The D7000 does not have a magnesium body. Nikon is very clear in the D7000 press release that the body only has magnesium in the back and top. The rest of the body is plastic. One of my main concerns with this is that the lens mount is attached to the plastic, just as with the D90. While we have some very good plastics today, I have a concern about hanging a lens, possibly a heavy lens, off of that mount when there are only four little screws holding the mount on.
From Nikon’s Press:
“…The compact design is lightweight enough for a full days use, but has a reassuring heft that hints at Nikon’s reputation for reliability. The durable camera body consists of a magnesium-alloy top and rear covers…”
Mar 11, 2011 at 5:16 am #72148Douglas Barnes
MemberERRR– The D7000 does not have a magnesium body. Nikon is very clear in the D7000 press release that the body only has magnesium in the back and top. The rest of the body is plastic. One of my main concerns with this is that the lens mount is attached to the plastic, just as with the D90. While we have some very good plastics today, I have a concern about hanging a lens, possibly a heavy lens, off of that mount when there are only four little screws holding the mount on.
From Nikon’s Press:
“…The compact design is lightweight enough for a full days use, but has a reassuring heft that hints at Nikon’s reputation for reliability. The durable camera body consists of a magnesium-alloy top and rear covers…”
I stand corrected. Excellent! Still a tough little unit. I’m hard on my stuff and I wouldn’t have got it if it felt like it wouldn’t take some abuse. Yes, heavy lenses are prolly more an issue with this configuration than with the flagship models. Tripod collars are good for that and they usually are included with big glass.
Zach, regarding sealing, I haven’t had a chance to test it much yet but it seems well done. I’ll give you a better idea after I return from Playa Blanca next month. With photos….
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