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  • #75576
    Brett Colvin
    Brett Colvin
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    You guys have probably noticed, but Nikon appears to be releasing a retro, compact FX body within the next 2 weeks. The form factor will probably be something similar to the F3. It will have a 16MP FX sensor, 5 to 6 fps, a robust AF system (currently unclear if this will be their 39-point or 51-point). The great news is that, unlike offerings like the new Sony A7, it’s going to have the f-mount and thereby afford access to a wide range of glass.

    I’m looking forward to seeing the full specs as I think this could be a great travel body and also be small enough that inexpensive underwater housings might be an option.

    #75583

    They have my interest !

    I always loved the FM2 and FE2 so to have digital versions would be something special.
    16mp doesn’t quite cut it, but that might not be the final spec.

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    #75585
    Brett Colvin
    Brett Colvin
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    They have my interest !

    Mine as well man!

    I would personally prefer a 16MP sensor and hope this offering is in that ballpark. I love the pixel size and resolution on my D4, it’s optimal in terms of the balance between resolution and RAW file size. If this has the D4’s sensor…SOLD.

    #75589
    Gerard S
    Gerard S
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    Mine too!!!!!!!

    I have been seriously looking at the Fujifilm cameras recently having previously owned their Nikon bodied DSLR and loved the colours but not the slow buffers.

    I want a compact rangefinder type and it would be great if Nikon would produce FF which used legacy lenses as I have a ton!

    Probably too much to hope for but here’s wishing.
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    Gerard

    #75593

    This could launch a whole new market for all the un-loved manual focus lenses as well.
    105 2.5 & 200 f4 macro would be top of my list from the olden days..

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    #75623
    Gerard S
    Gerard S
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    This new Nikon does look interesting…and exciting.
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    Gerard

    #75624

    Zach Matthews
    The Itinerant Angler

    This is actually getting my attention as well, even though I have the D600. The D600 is pretty heavy and its 24MP are overkill. 16MP is perfect for magazines — it works out to a native two page shot. And if the low light performance is there, plus light weight, the form factor isn’t that important, to me. I actually have an F3 body; if Nikon really wanted to make a statement, they would make sure this new form factor has the 100% viewfinder and circular eyepiece of the old flagships. It really makes a difference in brightness in looking through the viewfinder.

    #75625
    Gerard S
    Gerard S
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    I’m with you Zach. I would just love a digital F3. Same size…every thing. If they really wanted they could add an MD4 as extra battery pack. I never understood how the MD4 looked so unergonomic, but felt soooo right.
    No Nikon has felt the same….I still take mine out to play with! (I actually have a bunch of old Nikons, from the F,F2,F3 F100…..) the F3 wins.
    Wish they’d put a digital back on/in the Nikonos V while they’re feeling retrocreative!

    Here’s hoping!

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    Gerard

    #75629
    Gerard S
    Gerard S
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    I’m getting more excited……..

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    Looks to be F100 crossed with a FM……I like my F100 (bought over a F4 & F5 because I thought it handled better and was better size)…so I think I will be happy. Just depends on the price!

    #75631

    Zach Matthews
    The Itinerant Angler

    That’s pretty cool. Price is an issue. I am going to predict $1699 for the body. They may put together a kit with a 50mm f/1.8 at $1899.

    Anything less than that and they’ll cannibalize their D610 and D800 sales. Which they may do anyway – that looks like the prosumer darling of the next year. I’m interested in how well they’ve sealed it.

    Zach

    #75633
    Roy Conley
    Roy Conley
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    With the 610 being priced at $1999 and the D800 at $2999, for bodies only, I would be very surprised if the Df were not priced somewhere between the two. If Nikon prices it lower there could be a marketing issue if there is a D300 replacement priced at $1700 which is the current D300 retail price. Come Tuesday next week, we should know.

    Zach, on your comment about the D600 being pretty heavy …..wimp!

    #75636

    Zach Matthews
    The Itinerant Angler

    Hey Roy, c’mon man, by the time you’ve hauled in water, glass, maybe a tripod, plus fishing gear! It gets heavy.

    I do a lot of my wintertime fishing in the Appalachians with long hikes on every outing.

    Zach

    #75641

    Well with the price of this being $2700 (body only), I will stick to having a D800 as a backup 😉 This was going to be my field camera. Compact, excellent sensor, perfect MP count, fast 5.5fps.

    D4 – Studio, Birds, Sports/Action
    D800 – Macro, Bridal Portraits, Studio
    D700 – Flyfishing, In the field

    By the way for anyone interested I have a D300s I have not listed yet which has less than 1500 clicks for $700 but will take $650 from a IA member. I have only used it a handful of times as a backup.

    #75651

    Zach Matthews
    The Itinerant Angler

    Man, I am not gonna lie: I want one. That camera looks amazing. Maybe when it has been through a cycle and there are some on the used market I can make a move. Hopefully this is the start of a new line for Nikon and not a hipster one-off. I think it has real working potential.

    #75652
    Brett Colvin
    Brett Colvin
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    Man, I am not gonna lie: I want one.

    I’m with you Zach, the DF turned out to be almost exactly what I had hoped for. I would not have been mad if Nikon had used their 51-point AF array, but this is still their smallest FX body and should be an excellent professional tool for many applications.

    Given the physical knobs for various controls, I am also hoping that a relatively inexpensive UW housing ends up being offered for the DF. If that happens I will own one in very short order.

    Overall, the D4’s sensor has really impressed me in every way from resolution to color rendition:

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    Having access to the large form factor’s electronics in a smaller package is very cool stuff.

    #75653
    Roy Conley
    Roy Conley
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    When I just look at the specification sheets of both the D700 and the Df I see much of what many would have asked for in a D700 upgrade. Yes the Df is a very capable body and it is an relatively inexpensive route to a D4 sensor.

    Zach to your point about it not being a one off. If Nikon is not going to build a D700 successor (D700/D3 pairing) where the D4 sensor will be utilized, then continued versions of the Df would make sense in order for Nikon to sell additional D4/D5/D6 sensors and drive down the per unit cost of its topline camera body.

    #75654

    Zach Matthews
    The Itinerant Angler

    Roy I am just partly parroting what people I’ve shown it to have said (“looks like a hipster camera”) and what Ken Rockwell noted that he feared, i.e. that it would be a limited edition type camera and thus would never come down in price.

    I think Nikon is going to be SHOCKED by the demand for this thing. There’s a reason why the F100 design was so popular; having external knobs to fiddle with also means you can access and change things quicker. I hate digging through menus on my D600, which I find to be a clunky camera in use. I was more comfortable with the slightly more pro grade D200, and the difference is noticeable enough that I wouldn’t mind trading up.

    Zach

    #75657
    Roy Conley
    Roy Conley
    Member

    Zach, 60 days after retailers start delivering the Df you will be able to find used ones on the FM sale board. Make that 30 days, on second thought. They should be priced at about a $300 – $350 discount. Start saving your $$$$.

    #75659

    Hmmm, just under 3K with the new 50 lens..

    No.
    It’s awful cute in silver and rings all the right bells for swanning about the place shooting arty farty like, but it’s too much money and a second D800 would be better value (IMHO).

    Aww bugger it, I still want one..lol

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    #75662
    Roy Conley
    Roy Conley
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    Hmmm, just under 3K with the new 50 lens..

    No.<br>
    It’s awful cute in silver and rings all the right bells for swanning about the place shooting arty farty like, but it’s too much money and a second D800 would be better value (IMHO).

    Aww bugger it, I still want one..lol

    I already have the two D800s and I am still thinking about one. NAS gone wild, I guess!

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