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  • #7827
    Phil Monahan
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    Our extensive thread on covers got me thinking about ways to better connect with IA’s photographers, and several folks have asked me about how to submit. Most photographers either send a lightbox or mail a CD. Lightbox technology can be pretty clunky to use, and loading a CD and then opening up a bunch of images takes a lot of time out of my day. (Some of you may not know that I am a one-man show.) Plus, neither of these technologies is searchable by subject.

    So, I have created a private group on flickr called American Angler Archive. To become a member, I have to send you an invitation. You’ll need a flickr account (which is free) if you don’t already have one.

    My flickr name is phil.monahan. Search for me and make me a contact, and then I will send you an invitation to the group. (I’m pretty sure that this will work)

    Once you are a member of the group, you can upload photos. The idea here is that I will have a searchable archive of the whole IA group, but the archive not be for public consumption. That way, when I need a particular image, instead of having to visit each photographer’s Web site and page through images, I can go to the single archive and search for what I need. If I buy one photograph from you, it’ll probably have been worth your time.

    Here are the rules:

    1. Please upload only your best work, the real publishable stuff.

    2. In order for the search function to really work, you’ll have to tag each photo, and the tags should be standardized. for each image, tag it with:
    General kind of fishing: coldwater, warmwater, or saltwater
    Specific kind of fishing: river, stillwater, stream, tailwater, etc.
    General kind of fish: trout, salmon, bass, etc.
    Specific kind of fish: brook, brown, rainbow, smallmouth, largemouth, bluegill, etc.
    General Location: East, West, South, Midwest, Argentina, New Zealand, etc.
    Specific Location: Madison River, Lake Taupo, etc. (You can leave this blank if it’s a secret).
    Season: obvious.
    Potential Use: Cover, TOC, spread.

    So, if you have an gorgeous vertical image of a brown trout caught on the White River in Arkansas in February, the tags would look like this:

    Coldwater
    River
    Tailwater
    Trout
    Brown
    Midwest
    White River
    Winter
    Cover

    Now, these are the MINIMUM tags required. Flickr allows 75 tags per image. If you want to add things like state, kind of fly used, woman, etc., knock yourself out. The more tags there are, the more likely your image will come up in a search.

    So when I need an image, aside from putting out the regular photo call, I’ll be able to search this group. When I see an image I like, I’ll send an email asking you to send me a hi res.

    Here are our published photo rates:

    Cover: $700
    Spread: $350
    Single page: $250
    Half page: $100

    What do you guys think? Does this seem like a good idea?

    Thanks,

    Phil

    #65685
    gregg mckee
    Member

    Thanks Phil, count me in.

    #65686
    Avatar photoJohn Bennett
    Member

    My 2 copper.

    I think its brilliant and if other ADs get wind don’t be surprised if they borrow the idea.

    Just one thought right off the top.
    Due to the typical rights being NAFSRs. Can we have a way of flagging our photos for you if they happen to get sold somewhere down the road whether its due to someone perusing out site o another photo call etc??

    J

    #65687

    Fantastic .. I love the idea!

    Edit: I was wondering if would it be possible to also get a few examples of TOC shots posted along with the cover shots that you already put up on flickr?

    #65688
    Phil Monahan
    Member

    John,

    I think you can nix any of your own photos from the list at any time. There’s a little X button that deletes images.

    That said, I’d like to add a couple of caveats:

    1. I reserve the right to delete any images that I don’t think are up-to-snuff. This is not meant as an insult to the photographer, but as a way to maximize the effectiveness of the archive. Please do not take it personally, and if you want to know why I’ve nixed one of your images, I’ll be glad to discuss it.

    2. Since I made this a very public offering, who knows who’s going to get involved, so I reserve the right to ban anyone who abuses the archive in any way. To tell you the truth, I’m not even sure what someone could do–upload porn or offensive material, I guess–but I want it to be clear up front that I hold that power.

    That said, I’m excited by the prospect of bringing a whole new group of shooters into AA.

    Good luck!

    Phil

    #65689
    Phil Monahan
    Member

    if other ADs get wind don’t be surprised if they borrow the idea.

    I won’t tell if you won’t tell.

    #65690

    WOW…great idea! Kudos for thinking outside the box.

    #65691
    Avatar photoJohn Bennett
    Member

    Mums the word Phil.

    Honestlyly, this is one those things that seems so obvious now that its “out there” I’d be surprised if it doesn’t grow into something better over time that other ADs mimic in some shape or form.

    It streams lines some ineffeciences with emails, ftps, cds. And thats from my PoV as someone trying to do Freelance for a handful of magazines. Some want just a few jps at a time, some want no less than 50 at a time ….Then I always wonder if the CDs been received or mis routed on those occasions I don’t hear back.

    I can only imagine how it might help ADs
    From server space to photogs doing the tagging under a set format etc, etc.

    2. Since I made this a very public offering, who knows who’s going to get involved, so I reserve the right to ban anyone who abuses the archive in any way. To tell you the truth, I’m not even sure what someone could do–upload porn or offensive material, I guess–but I want it to be clear up front that I hold that power.

    As you should, inlcuding the right to nix any that dont hold up. It could grow into a rather large database. Your times money and we all understand that or should.

    J

    #65692

    Excellent! Thanks Phil.

    #65693
    Avatar photoMike McKeown
    Member

    I would love to join, maybe not to post today, but to learn and maybe post in the near future.

    Hope you allow international photos??

    #65694
    Morsie
    Member

    J guess it is “American Angler” but think of the world as your oyster.

    Morsie

    #65695
    Phil Monahan
    Member

    Hope you allow international photos??

    Of course. Any and all are welcome. Doubt we’ll be using much tigerfish or payara, though.

    #65696
    brian porter
    Member

    Great idea!

    #65697
    Avatar photoChad Simcox
    Member

    Great idea Phil!

    I added you as a contact on Flickr.

    http://society6.com/grainfarmer Fly Fishing and Landscape open edition Photography prints.

    http://grainfarmer.vsco.co/ iPhone photos
    http://instagram.com/chad_simcox Instagram

    #65699

    Hope my ‘flood’ wasnt to much…

    #65701

    Sorry for the dumb question, but what does TOC stand for?

    #65702
    Zach Matthews
    The Itinerant Angler

    Table of Contents.

    🙂

    Zach

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