New Podcast: Bahamas Bonefish Flats-side Essay!
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Aug 12, 2007 at 9:21 pm #2289
Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerAug 12, 2007 at 9:56 pm #18611Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerHey guys –
I want to take a moment here to stress an important point, which despite my best efforts I may not have carried off completely on the show.
Aug 13, 2007 at 1:42 am #18612Rusty Garoutte
MemberPictures…We need pictures!
Aug 13, 2007 at 2:01 am #18613Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerUnfortunately, so does the magazine.
Aug 13, 2007 at 1:54 pm #18614Carter Simcoe
MemberWhat do you base your assertion that the American companies were there first on? It’s my understanding that native guide Charlie Smith (after whom Bob Nauheim named the Crazy Charlie fly) pioneered that fishery into what it is today. I don’t doubt that there are probablly more American owned operations down there now but by all accounts I’ve ever heard Charlie is the OG and is still running a tight ship with the help of his offspring to this date.
Aug 13, 2007 at 2:33 pm #18615Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerYou’re probably right as far as the people who figured out the fishery, Carter.
Aug 13, 2007 at 2:41 pm #18616Carter Simcoe
MemberWell Charlie and crew have owned and operated their lodge since the 1950’s
Aug 13, 2007 at 2:56 pm #18617Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerInteresting.
Aug 13, 2007 at 4:46 pm #18618Rusty Garoutte
MemberI laugh as I am writing this, but is there really any way to get a professional point across to people that thinks that
Aug 16, 2007 at 4:55 am #18619Jeff Morasco
MemberZach, I’m glad you had such a good time with Deep Water Cay and sorry that you had such a poor experience with Pelican Bay. I don’t think there is any “American” guide service as such and I don’t think you can fish out of Deep Water unless you own or are staying there. In other words you can’t register at any other hotel and expect
Aug 16, 2007 at 11:37 am #18620Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerHey Jeff –
It wasn’t Pelican Bay’s fault; they had nothing to do with picking our guides.
Aug 16, 2007 at 3:35 pm #18621Jeff Morasco
MemberI stand corrected. Obviously they were not adequately prepared. The usual scenario is that you are picked up at around 7, so that you start at the dock at 8:00. Granted that island time is relaxed but three and a half hours is inexcusable.
I wouldn’t be surprised if there was no training whatsoever, depending on who was supervising the approval and what the alleged qualifications of the applicant were, or the relationship with the supervisor (nepotism is a way of life there.). I’m not familiar with that program being active on Grand Bahama. Do they have a contact person in Freeport? I took a quick look at the Orvis website and didn’t see anything about it.Jeff
Aug 17, 2007 at 12:50 pm #18622Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerI gathered that it is brand new, Jeff – they certainly had Orvis Endorsed Bahamas Guide shirts on.
Zach
Aug 18, 2007 at 7:42 am #18623grant schofield
MemberI was cruising around the Orvis site tonight and came across the info for the Orvis certified guides. There isn’t too much there, but thought it might be helpful.
http://www.orvis.com/intro.asp?dir_id=11716&Group_ID=12570&subject=2341
Grant
Aug 21, 2007 at 12:05 am #18624Jeff Morasco
MemberThanks for the website. It should be handy for anyone visiting the islands. All the guides were on Abaco excepting one from Exuma. I can’t speak to any of them from first hand experience.
Considering the discussion above, local knowledge would be my first choice, recommendations from fishermen on the web would be second and this would be third. I think most of us prefer DIY, but when making a first time trip to an unknown destination, any information helps. -
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