National Geographic Tees Off on Commercial Fishing
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Mar 31, 2007 at 10:02 pm #1973
Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerHey guys –
I don’t know if you’ve got ahold of this month’s issue yet, for those that take it, but National Geographic has a three-part special report on the dismal state of world commercial fishing stocks and what humans have done to them.
Apr 1, 2007 at 2:06 am #16448brian dunigan
MemberCommercial fishing is out of control.
Apr 1, 2007 at 2:38 am #16449Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerThe best description I ever read of the Tragedy of the Commons was in Jared Diamond’s “Collapse,” which
Apr 1, 2007 at 2:48 am #16450Carter Simcoe
MemberWhats worse is their answer is just to set up commercial fish farms in floating pens which simply spread diseases to the wild populations swimming by.
Apr 2, 2007 at 11:21 am #16451Mike Anderson
MemberIt gets harder and harder for me to buy seafood without feeling guilty. Tuna, Snapper, Grouper, Shrimp, and Oysters, are my weakness. There are many fish I won’t buy though.
Apr 2, 2007 at 5:37 pm #16452brian dunigan
MemberThus, everyone knows the village green can only support 10 cows, and everyone knows the village’s 20 cows will ruin the green for everyone, so it becomes a race to see who can take the fatted cows home first before the green is ruined.
And one villager becomes unsatisfied with the profit margin generated by two cows, so he buys twenty cows of his own to graze as much as possible before the other villagers bring their cows along.
Apr 2, 2007 at 5:43 pm #16453Carter Simcoe
MemberThere isn’t that much of it going on around us which might be why you haven’t heard much about it.
Apr 2, 2007 at 7:14 pm #16454Billy Belsom
MemberOne of the problems of fish farming is that it typically harms wild stocks – whether through disease-spreading cage farming like Carter mentioned, or through closed farms that invariably leak genetically weaker stock into wild runs. This decreases the viability of wild stocks, and decreases the numbers available for commercial fishing, resulting in further overfishing. It also leads to depressed prices paid to commercial fishermen, also encouraging overfishing. The downward spiral leads to decimated stocks.
Do I worry about tilapia farming? No. But with salmon, for example, fish farms are not an alternative to overfishing – they are destructive of the wild runs.
Apr 2, 2007 at 7:36 pm #16455Carter Simcoe
Memberoh, I almost forgot.
Apr 2, 2007 at 9:07 pm #16456matt boutet
MemberAnother option for guilt free shrimp is Maine Shrimp.
Apr 3, 2007 at 4:16 pm #16457charlie kreitler
MemberCheck out http://www.mbayaq.org/cr/seafoodwatch.asp and click the link for Regional Seafood Guides.
I’m always very conflicted– I absolutely love fish & chips, but know what it does the the cod population. I love bluefin tuna, chilean seabass, skate, and many more. Unfortunately they can’t sustain the pressure they’re under. At least I can enjoy my cajun catfish!
Apr 3, 2007 at 5:12 pm #16458Gary Sundin
MemberVery interesting discussion.
Apr 3, 2007 at 5:38 pm #16459Carter Simcoe
MemberHow do you decide who gets to continue and who has to stop?
Apr 3, 2007 at 5:47 pm #16460matt boutet
MemberHow do you decide who gets to continue and who has to stop?
Apr 3, 2007 at 5:51 pm #16461Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerOr they could just make the loser join the cast of the Discovery CHannel’s “Deadliest Catch.”
Apr 3, 2007 at 5:57 pm #16462Carter Simcoe
Memberyeah, but the loser in this deal is gonna be flopping around on the ground with a screwdriver in his neck.
Apr 3, 2007 at 7:15 pm #16463Gary Sundin
Memberhehe.
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