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  • #1633
    Zach Matthews
    The Itinerant Angler

    Hey guys –

    I had this conversation with Mike Anderson over the weekend.

    #13762

    I do, but it would probably be cheaper to raise the Titanic.

    #13763

    Why would you want to use aluminum?

    #13764

    Zach, your drawing looks a lot like the Flip Pallot edition Bass Tracker flats boats.

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    #13766
    watimeisit
    Member

    Zach, the boat you describe is certainly do-able, the blazer pictured would be a good platform to build on. Several of my friends have them – pretty nice rigs. Most are rigged without the console (tiller steering) due to weight considerations as jets are horribly inefficient – 30% loss as compared to a propeller. For rock protection, UHMW, an extremely durable plastic composite ( think trailer rollers ) is being applied to the bottom of aluminum boats by several builders with success. Google ‘Snyder boats’ or ‘Rock proof boats’ for the lowdown on some seriously tough river rigs, complete with tunnel hulls.
    A properly set up river jon is a joy to flycast out of – the entire boat becomes a giant stripping basket,
    and the additional height of eye allows you to see fish and features in the water that would be undetectable if wading.
    A foot operated trolling motor is a ‘must have’ in my mind, it does take some practice, but eventually, slipping slowly downstream becomes second nature. Everybody gets to fish, no rowing required.
    Most everything you desire in an aluminum rig is already being done – the eastern smallmouth guys have been utilizing such boats for years – happy hunting !

    #13767

    I’m not exactly sure what kind of rivers you plan on running in it but I think you should also consider just getting a Carolina Skiff J16 or something similar, aluminum is noisy.

    You just might be thinking too hard with the hidden below deck trolling motor thing.

    #13768
    salty_ryan
    Member

    Zach

    Since you’re going for the ultimate fishing craft, don’t mount a single trolling motor on the bow, it just snags your line. Instead go for the Homossassa Rig- dual trolling motors on the transom, controlled by foot activated air switiches on the poling platform. We’re talking muscle!!

    #13769
    Avatar photoBob Riggins
    Member

    I’ve seen some boats very similar to your drawing here in Florida.

    #13770

    Dunfly, There’s a variety of those shallow mud running engines called Go-Devils that seem to be more popular over this way.

    #13771

    I am going back in time on this, so bare with me.

    #13772
    Avatar photoBob Riggins
    Member

    Dunfly, There’s a variety of those shallow mud running engines called Go-Devils that seem to be more popular over this way.  I saw something once where these guys were making them out of Harley Davidson V-Twin engines.  Crazy for sure.

    The Gatortail is a knockoff of the Go-Devil.

    #13773

    Yeah, I was pretty sure the Go Devil was the original and it’s definitly a Lousiana based company.

    #13774
    ron snow
    Member

    Zach,

    I have sketched, doodled and “designed” the boat you have illustrated here many times with few differences.

    #13775
    Zach Matthews
    The Itinerant Angler

    Ron –

    First of all, are you Grumpy?

    Second, please do report on how you do and whether you can make this work out for you.

    #13776
    ron snow
    Member

    I am very grumpy, according to my wife, step children, dogs, employee, customers and some fishing partners, but I am not Grumpy.

    #13777

    Yeah, an above deck compartment for it like those fish and ski boats have would be sweet, but anything where it pops out from below the hull is just asking for a headache I would think.

    #13778

    I think yall are trying to reinvent the wheel. My,,, well, Ron’s Minn Kota Powerdrive has a very small footprint and was never in my way at all. Most all the boats I have owned had the motor mounted in the extreme front V of the boat and they worked out just fine. It’s just not very often you want to stand or fish that far on front of the boat. To make a closet mount would do one of two things. 1 it will eat up space under the floor or 2 it will eat up space above the deck. Both variations will add weight and that is where it most likely dies from a manufacturing standpoint. I think if you don’t see a boat that suits you from the factory buy a hull with the design you like and build the interior yourself.

    BD wrote
    “Rusty, I think the advantages of aluminum over glass is that it’s lighter and more rugged.

    #13779

    I agree Mike, if it was my boat I’d just mount it on the deck and be done with it.

    #13780
    ron snow
    Member

    Mike and Carter both have a valid point. Course the wheel is fine as it is. Sometimes it’s just fun to invent stuff. Think of this as the “Spinner” of the trolling motor world, but without the chrome!

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