Latest attempts…critiques welcome
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Jul 9, 2008 at 1:21 am #7622
dusty montgomery
MemberI’ve had the new DSLR for a little more than a month. Each time I go out, I avg. about 70-80 images, but of this one, I was quite fond. I recently got the latest edition of Digital Photo Pro., and was half-heartedly trying to emulate the image on the cover concerning tones, color, etc. As I have not yet purchased CS3, everything was done in Aperture 2.1.
Gentlemen, start your lambasting! 😉
Dusty
Jul 9, 2008 at 1:33 am #63885Aaron Otto
MemberSo Dusty, by no means am I an authority in this arena.
Jul 9, 2008 at 2:06 am #63886dusty montgomery
MemberAaron,
Here is the original. I know what you mean by over exposed, but it was half-heartedly done on purpose.
DustyFor some reason, after I post the original, it appears much lighter on the forum than it does on my machine alone. But, I think the differences are noticeable.
Either way…here it is.
Jul 9, 2008 at 2:21 am #63887Aaron Otto
MemberD-
Here is what I was thinking. Your photo struck a chord with me. I’ve been working over a story for a few years now.
Jul 9, 2008 at 2:33 am #63888dusty montgomery
MemberAaron,
The liberty is yours!
Jul 9, 2008 at 2:55 am #63889scott bullinger
MemberI also love the story the picture tells.
Jul 9, 2008 at 3:17 am #63890nick davis
MemberHey bro whats up? I am with these guys in saying i love this pic, and it is the way it should be a man and his dog just out doing nothing but fishing.
Jul 9, 2008 at 12:56 pm #63891
David AndersonMemberIt’s a nice shot.
I like the crop that Aarons done – makes everything a bit more tidy and brings more focus to the dog and angler.
Well done..
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Jul 10, 2008 at 3:45 am #63892dusty montgomery
MemberDavid,
Thanks, and I like Aaron’s addition as well. It does focus on the subject more effectively. How do you/you all feel about the post prod.? I know it looks underexposed, but I was thinking the lack of vibrant color added some aspect to this image. I do not yet know the nomenclature, but when I desaturated this image, I simply liked it. The image fit very well with my memories of the day and what happened that day. I suppose this is why we need non-emotionally involved criticism.
D.
Jul 10, 2008 at 7:29 am #63893
David AndersonMemberThe post is ok, looks like hard light to shoot in, but on the whole it all works.
It’s more the moment then the shot that makes it nice.
I think it’s important to get stuff right without the post, if you concentrate on doing things that way you will become a better photographer IMHO..
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A picture is thousand words that takes less than a second while a thousand words is a picture that takes a month.
Jul 10, 2008 at 1:55 pm #63894dusty montgomery
MemberI think it’s important to get stuff right without the post, if you concentrate on doing things that way you will become a better photographer IMHO..
You are exactly right. And thanks for sharing your thoughts; they are helpful.
In the digital age we live in, do people still rely on light meters the way they once did, or do they rely on the DSLR for the correct info.?
Dusty
Jul 10, 2008 at 3:24 pm #63895Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerDusty –
Midday light on the open water, with a light haze in the sky; it just plain sucks.
Jul 10, 2008 at 4:09 pm #63896
Chad SimcoxMemberThe dodging of the fisherman is a little weird and has caused a halo around him. I’d also like to see a bit more saturation in the image, especially in the sky. But you have to be careful not to make the sky and the fisherman’s shirt blend together.
Overall I really like the shot. Makes me wish I had a dog! There is a sense of freedom to this shot, if you know what I mean. I get the feeling of a long summer day, “dog days” that opens up the possibility to do anything you want without having anything tie you down. No commitments, other than the one you made to yourself to have a good time.http://society6.com/grainfarmer Fly Fishing and Landscape open edition Photography prints.
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http://instagram.com/chad_simcox InstagramJul 10, 2008 at 6:08 pm #63897Eric DeWitt
MemberI agree with Chad and Zach, I think its a great concept and a good snapshot at this point, but i would love to see it explored a little further in better lighting conditions. Either first light or last light, or maybe with some big fall clouds rolling thru. Sometimes if the shot isn’t there, you can’t force it, and you just have to wait for the light.
Flip thru some of the coffee table books and look at the pictures… sure, i can go take a picture of someone standing in the Firehole with some steam rolling in the background and it would be OK, but it might take a year for the stars to align on a great shot – the sun setting with just the right amount of clouds to fill the sky with colors, maybe some snow on the peaks, the fall colors in the leaves, a buffalo standing on the bank… etc. And it takes alot of time and dedication to be there when that happens. Thats the part that sucks.
The lighting and timing is what seperates alot of good photos from great ones. Read what ken rockwell has to say about it on his site, there is some pretty good insight there.
I tend to worry less about taking pictures when the light ins’t good, and more about fishing, and the opposite when the light is good.
Jul 10, 2008 at 6:20 pm #63898john michael white
MemberGreat advice Eric…
As far as post-processing goes, I see a little glow around you in the revised image.
Jul 10, 2008 at 6:47 pm #63899
Chad SimcoxMemberI tend to worry less about taking pictures when the light ins’t good, and more about fishing, and the opposite when the light is good. Sometimes the really good light might only happen for a few minutes a day, thats when you forget about fishing and just keep pushing the shutter button.
What about a great hatch during some amazing magic hour light?
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http://instagram.com/chad_simcox InstagramJul 10, 2008 at 7:30 pm #63900dusty montgomery
MemberThere seems to be a consistent message here for me-light! The funny thing is that not twenty four hours before heading to this lake, I had just read the chapter in Understanding Exposure about light, and he said the same thing as you guys: Avoid mid-day light. But mornings are for sleeping and evenings are for drinking…may have to alter some things.
Chad & Zach, are the suggestions you’ve made about the post based on CS3 tools? If so, I will have to wait on them as I am still working in Aperture at home.
Initially, I was trying to rid the image of the underexposure. Then I found the saturation slider, moved it way down. After that, I moved the highlight and shadow sliders, which i think is how I “Deified” the subject.
Thanks for the input and resource suggestions!
D.Jul 10, 2008 at 7:41 pm #63901john michael white
MemberDusty,
On another thread I posted, I was directed to Canon’s Digital Photo Pro.
Jul 10, 2008 at 9:00 pm #63902Eric DeWitt
MemberIn the digital age we live in, do people still rely on light meters the way they once did, or do they rely on the DSLR for the correct info.?
Thats what the histogram and LCD is for!!
What about a great hatch during some amazing magic hour light?
Haha.. i guess that is the true test!! I guess you can fish with one hand, and hold the camera in the other!
Jul 11, 2008 at 12:05 am #63903
John BennettMemberAs far as post-processing goes, I see a little glow around you in the revised image. Good for deification, not so good for publication.
Alhought it should be said tha those who do end up with that exalted status do tend to get alot of publicity..
Great quote Zach, as John noted that one of he funnier ones Ive read in awhile
🙂In the digital age we live in, do people still rely on light meters the way they once did, or do they rely on the DSLR for the correct info.?
Its a combination Dusty. Histograms and lcds are great when you have the time to review them and shoot a retake. There are lots of sitations where they will save your bacon.
Not so great if thats what your relying on those and only have a few seconds and 1 shot at it. Get used to using them all. The more of the tools at your disposal you become comfortable with using, the more prepared you’ll be to recognise which to use and when. There are times when I barely glance at the lcd/histo and there are times when I constantly check them.
What about a great hatch during some amazing magic hour light?
Haha.. i guess that is the true test!! I guess you can fish with one hand, and hold the camera in the other!
Raise your hand if
1)you ever tried to fish as normal
2) positioned the the camera n your abdomen set at f11 to 16 for DoF and all points focus
3) Used your stomach to raise it or lower the plane ( think beer belly vs sucking in )
4) A Cable release in your mouth and tongue to trip the shutter/raises hand
Very nice effort Dusty harsh light or no.
But as others have stressed the golden hours are called those for good reasons. Im out the door before sunrise virtually every weekend.
If I have a location where I want to shoot something ( say a waterfall) that doesnt get good light until the afternoon ( sun rises in east/sets in the west) , I go tere in the evenings. Why make the drive if Im shooting into the sun trying to get Rainbows jumping the falls? -
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