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Carter Simcoe.
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Aug 2, 2006 at 12:49 pm #12470
Mike Anderson
MemberI am mostly refering to the 13′ Gheenoe since the B60 is more skiff like then canoe like. I know I can’t pabble the B60 as fast a you can paddle the Canoe. The B60 is made for remote power and not paddle power.
A smaller Riverhawk or Gheenoe would only be slightly slower under paddle power and still be stable enough to stand up in. Try this in a 13′ canoe.

BTW I paid $300.00 for my 13′ Gheenoe and sold it for $300 a year later. Ebay has them often.Aug 2, 2006 at 2:12 pm #12471john switow
MemberGo try a Mad River Explorer or their royalex version.
Aug 2, 2006 at 3:19 pm #12472brian dunigan
MemberTake the weight ratings on most canoes with a grain of salt.
Aug 2, 2006 at 4:47 pm #12473Carter Simcoe
MemberNo BD, I’ve never used them but I think you might have a good point, once I busted a bunch of guides on the rudder to my kayak which I had forgotten to pull up out of the water while I was trying to land a big redfish that decided to make a run around the back.
Aug 2, 2006 at 5:26 pm #12474rustybolt
MemberMike, you are definitely correct about stability. You can stand in a Riverhawk with no problem. Gheenoes are nearly as stable as well.
But I have to respectfully challenge what you said about weight or ease of paddling. 🙂 The reason your B-60 Riverhawk is so stable is not only hull design – it is also because it is big, heavy, and wide as all get out – which makes for tough paddling. My 16.5′ Alumacraft is big and heavy as canoes go, but if you want to leave your outboard at home and grab a paddle, I think I could beat you in a race.
Also, my canoe cost $400.00. Can’t get a Riverhawk for that.
Carter, I’ve thought about trying one of those outrigger setups for a while. The main reason I haven’t is because it seems like it would get in the way while you were trying to land a fish. Have you ever tried one?
bd
Two words. Lee boards. Simple and easy to build and don’t get in the way. One is good. two are better.
Aug 4, 2006 at 8:21 pm #12475Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerMy interpretation only: Mike’s Riverhawk is a great boat, but it is a *boat.*
Aug 4, 2006 at 9:24 pm #12476spenser
MemberNew guy here from up in Adirondacks.
Aug 4, 2006 at 9:49 pm #12477steve154
MemberZach, I agree. I think the best option for what we want to do right now is a canoe. I forgot about the outriggers after seeing them in catalogs many times in the past and that is certainly something I am going to do no matter what canoe we get.
spenser, where are you at in the Adirondacks. We have been to the Old Forge area twice and are planning another trip for next summer. I was thinking about hitting a new area. Any suggestions? I will have a canoe for the trip… 🙂
Aug 6, 2006 at 1:58 pm #12478spenser
MemberSorry Steve, I am on the wrong side of the mountains to provide any good guidance in the Old Forge Area.
Aug 8, 2006 at 3:10 pm #12479adams
Membersteve — I’m a newbie here, but have spent a hell of a lot of time in a canoe. I’m from Minnesooooda — up here, we do everything in a canoe. I don’t know if this is practical for you, but paddle as many canoes as you can before you buy one. Hull shapes vary significantly, and really influence how they handle on the water. Figure our what type of water you will spend most of your time on, and get a canoe geared toward that. River boats have more rocker (the stems (ends) are lifted up in a banana shape). Some hulls have flare vs tumblehome (the gunwales slant outward (in this shape) /, which directs waves away; others have tumblehome () where the gunwales cureve back in, which make it easier to get a paddle into the water. Don’t be fooled by initial stability. Some canoes have a relatively flat bottom, which makes them feel relatively stable, but once they start to tip, they roll easily. Others fell tippy initially, but have what is called secondary stability, where the hull shape adds stability as the canoe’s side gets pushed into the water as it rolls. Every hull shape is a compromise — some are better suited for taskes than others. A general spoon fork sorta shape is a modified v. like the Mad River Explorer others mentioned. Check out some of the manufacturer’s websites — they have goo ddiscussions on hull design characteristics. Wenonah canoes has a very useful website. Adams
PS — don’t listen to people who say you cannot stand in a canoe. Depends on the canoe, the water, and your abilities. I stand and pole upstream in moving water, stand while casting to rising trout, and my wife, daughter, and moron english setter have never gotten soaked. (Yet).
Aug 8, 2006 at 8:29 pm #12480Carter Simcoe
MemberNow thats a good point.
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