D3 and D300 Likely Coming
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Hey guys –
Eric over at PhotographyBay.com has had his pulse on the upcoming camera releases for the last few months.
Are you sure of the specs Zach, I havent seen anything yet. Couple of the forums I haunt have today (8/23) as the release date. I’m not Nikon so I cant comment on what Id like to see, but from talking to a number of Nikon to Canon converts one area thats almost always cited is NR. I would hope Nikon makes some big steps there. By way of example Canon MkIII, the images at iso 3200 are sick.
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A friend of mine has the new Canon Mark III and loves live preview for macro shooting. It one reason why Im likely stepping up to the 40D. If you do any amount of fine manual focusing, live view is (imo) a great feature.John,
DPReview has articles up on both, and I think Nikon UK’s website has press releases up, but it’s being buried in traffic right now.
I admit my own specialization in outdoor, daylit shots is probably a fairly small slice of the market – but not THAT small.
Here’s a link to some more info on the cameras and lenses from dpreview:
http://dpreview.com/For what it’s worth (I’m a Canon man through & through 😉 ),
Nikon must be kidding right ?
12 mp for the top of the line FF pro camera ??
Isn’t that the resolution of the new G9 point & shoot ???
Where’s the beef.. ::)I used a couple 1DS’s for two years before the current model and at times getting good crops for magazine work out of 11mp was hard.
At times it can even be a problem on a well shot frame at 17mp.
While the Nikon chip will no doubt be an advance on that old thing the resolution is still a bit light on for the price IMHO.By november they’re competing with almost twice the resolution from the 1DSIII and no doubt the new 5D (or 6D ? ) will be around 16 or 17.
I think they need to try harder…
I switched to Canon ten years ago because they were moving the game forward with lcd screens & dials on their cameras to make them faster & more efficient to use while Nikon were telling us that the head needed to come off F4’s (even though it caused endless breakdowns & problems with moisture) because some of the old pros like them and who needs change right ?
Same thing with their week pissy little lens mounts – they had the opportinity to fix it back then before
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David –
I was frankly shocked that Nikon effectively checked out of the megapixel game where they did.
I, for one, find the two new releases pretty exciting.
I think that 12MP are quite sufficient for most work, and don’t share the sentiment that this is somehow a dissapointment. Of course, Zach would know better than me what’s needed for magazine-type stuff, but I’ve got a feeling 12 is puh-lenty. 13×19 is easily possible with good glass and ‘only’ 10MP on my D200. Besides, the big emphasis for the D3 (and D300) is clearly speed and ISO performance. We’ll see how good the new sensors are in coming weeks, but I don’t feel like I’m stretching too much when I say the 12 delivered from the 24×36 sensor will likely be excellent, with significantly improved noise and dynamic range. And, I’d bet they’ve got it better on the DX-sized sensor in the D300 too. Stretching up to 6400 ISO will surely get some shots that would otherwise be missed, and who cares about noise way up there anyway?
The other specs, like the new AF module, live view, better LCD, better viewfinder, HD output are really interesting to me, but more just a technological progression.
That said, what remains is: will they come next with the large MP version in 2008 as most of the rumors say? Seems to make sense to me. Don’t know if we’re merging the high-MP and high-speed product lines or not, but I wouldn’t be totally shocked to see a D3x with a 20-ish MP sensor and no other significant changes.
Hey ness –
In regards to the magazine business, you have to realize that fly fishing magazines are very, very understaffed.
Thanks Zach, that adds some perspective to the MP -> magazine photo questions I had.
It’s interesting, I found myself sitting next to a guy a few weeks ago who said he was a professional photographer for print catalogs here:http://www.peruvianconnection.com/ Â . He said he used a D200. I would have guessed a medium format film camera or digital back, or at least a ‘pro’ camera for that kind of work, before that conversation. So, my comments were in part based on that conversation – not a real understanding of the science.
It will be interesting to see if Nikon follows up with a big-MP ‘FX’ offering in 2008. I’d bet money they do.
IMHO even used small higher bit & Megapixel shots look better in print and when you start cropping them and running double page spreads the difference is huge.
The thing with my regular work is we never really know how they’re going to be used.
One minute it’s under 6 inches as a CD cover the next it’s been cropped to 50% and run as a full sheet poster.While it’s true that fishing mags aren’t as demanding as others it’s still an advantage in the VERY competitive world of photography to be submitting bigger and better shots than the other snappers be you pro or weekend warrior.
Any thing in the camera or your lens line-up that up’s that advantage is well worth the money IMO.
With Nikon I think they have a big hit on their hands with the D200 in value for money terms and it’s a huge success in it’s market segment, but I bet a lot of their pro’s are again scratching their heads and wondering how much longer they can stick with them in the face of such mighty opposition from Canon.
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Great post Will and a good solid rant, I agree with you. Having all the technical aspects and a sack full of megapixels won’t compensate for not having an “eye” or dedication, and by dedication I mean putting the rod down when the light’s great or the action’s hot and getting the images. There is no substitute for this. However we also need to look at our bag of tricks called lenses and attachments, being prepared to carry a longer lens or a wider lens or a better macro lens or adaptors or viewers all adds up to getting a different perspective and teaches us to use our eyes and to think about shots. Knowing how to hold a fish, telling someone what you want, remembering good composition details, keeping lenses clean, using the best available light – all of these are fundamentals that sometimes get buried in mps and fps’s. But I don’t mind, I love that, it means my opposition is focusing on what’s in their hands, no the potential of what’s in front of them and what’s around them.
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Will –
Your comments are fair, and probably best compared with the entire contents of this site rather than just my comments in this thread.
All good points.
I always assume the people who strive to shoot good fishing stuff have the ‘eye’ and are willing to go the extra mile to get the best shot.
Let’s face it, if you don’t try hard no matter what camera you have you’re going nowhere.
I also agree that a lot of what’s in the mags is a bit lacking in new angles, a lot of it looks the same.
But my feeling on having the best gear is that it’s worth every extra penny it costs over the cheaper stuff if it gives you even a small advantage on the other guys shooting and gives you an advantage in shooting and selling your shots.There’s nothing wrong with the Nkon D200 or the Canon 20D or whatever, but gone are the days where you can keep a camera for 20 years and still be in the game.
They’re changing to fast for that.www.dsaphoto.com
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