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Feb 20, 2008 at 6:42 pm #2839
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InactiveSpent the morning in a meeting with our architect continuing to refine plans for the adaptive reuse of an old industrial building.
Feb 20, 2008 at 6:57 pm #23406Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerTim –
Cork is mostly grown commercially in Portugal.
Feb 20, 2008 at 8:02 pm #23407Carter Simcoe
MemberThat’s funny man, I saw an ad for eco friendly cork flooring just yesterday and had the same thoughts.
The bamboo flooring is really nice, btw.
Zach, concrete is one of the least eco friendly building materials out there.
Feb 20, 2008 at 8:02 pm #23408jeff s
MemberA lot of people are going to get rich over the next few years by labeling their products as “green”.
I’m not sure if cork is any more or less green than hardwood or any other natural product.
Feb 21, 2008 at 4:20 am #23409Rick Neilson
MemberI too, like the look of laminate bamboo flooring. It’s very strong, durable and I guess it’s as green as other types of wood laminate. I’ve never heard of cork being used for flooring and am having a difficult time visualizing how it would be used. It would seem to be way too soft. I imagine it would be fairly expensive too. I’d be curious to see how it is used.
Jeff has a good point on green and money. How do you define green. Is it recycled material? Does it have a lower cost to produce or a longer life?
Feb 21, 2008 at 2:14 pm #23410Anonymous
InactiveThanks for all the thoughts.
Feb 21, 2008 at 2:55 pm #23411Carter Simcoe
Memberyeah, that’s probably the deal, good first cuts are probably in short supply but they still aren’t pulling them out of the ground.
Feb 22, 2008 at 12:58 am #23413Neal Osborn
MemberBamboo flooring is $$$$$ but man does it look good.
Feb 22, 2008 at 10:18 pm #23414stiles
MemberBamboo is a lot cheaper than hardwood! Mostly because the install cost is minimal: its pre finished.
That said, bamboo is impossible to re-finish and touch-up. Also, bamboo is laminated under lots of pressure, but over time, it tends to curl up and go back to its original state. After a few years you are left with scuffed-up cupped floor boards.
So, bamboo is great it you want to tear it up and start over in 10 years, but thats not my idea of “green”.
Feb 22, 2008 at 10:36 pm #23415Carter Simcoe
MemberSo, bamboo is great it you want to tear it up and start over in 10 years, but thats not my idea of “green”.
I’ve got no experience with the longevity of it but as far as “green” goes compare how much bamboo grows in 10 years to your average hardwood tree.
Feb 23, 2008 at 1:59 am #23416dusty montgomery
MemberWhen I was in the flyshop industry, we began to notice that the quality of cork on our rods was declining. The explanation I received was that the lost quality in cork was due to the massive Tsunami that hit a few years back, effectively wiping out whole crops. I cannot validate this, just what I heard!
Dustycorrections welcome…
Feb 26, 2008 at 1:04 pm #23417Jack Cummings
MemberI just have to!
Someone found a good crop of cork!
I can’t say I’ve seen any better on a fly rod… custom or production models.
Feb 26, 2008 at 1:05 pm #23418matt_dotts
MemberI can’t speak to it’s “green” attributes but as a custom rod builder I can speak of corks increased cost over the past few years.
Feb 26, 2008 at 1:21 pm #23419Anonymous
InactiveI can’t speak to it’s “green” attributes but as a custom rod builder I can speak of corks increased cost over the past few years. You looking at paying $1.00 or more for each 1/2 inch premium high end ring. There is no international standard to grade cork so each producer grades they’re own. Some use designations such as fine, superfine ect. and some use numerics numbers such as C1, C2 ect. One thing is for sure the prices have certainly inflated in the past two years or so and continue to rise.
The price of cork is one reason why your seeing more rods being built with split grip and with synthetic materials such as EVA foam. Compressed burl cork made with chips and production left over scraps (think particle board) also work great.
IN the future fly rods with the highest gradings of cork will certainly be a luxury.
I completely agree with you thoughts on cork pricing.
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