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  • #2769

    Guys

    Being a little new to the sport I have developed a problem with my fly hooking onto my fly line right at the butt section on the forward cast.

    #22831
    anonymous
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    Brett:

    Take a look at the timely March 2008 issue of Fly Fisherman. Jim Mclennan has a helpful article on the Creep and Jab.

    Good video explanation here:
    http://flyfisherman.com/videos/creepandjab/

    Scott

    #22832

    the most common thing I see in new flycasters that can lead to that is that I’ll bet your rod goes back to far on the backcast, this will make you lose line speed and cause your fly to fall before the rod is loaded.

    #22833

    Scott

    Thats it exactly.

    #22834
    Rich Kovars
    Member

    Yep, what you are seeing is the dreaded tailing loop.

    In addition to the advice already given, try starting your forward cast too slow.  So slow that you think you are going to make a bad cast.

    Also, if you can, get someone who knows what they are doing to watch you.

    #22835
    Avatar photoJohn Bennett
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    For self teaching and correcting sexy loops is a nice web site.

    My best advice would be to book some time on the water with a guide. You get a .5 day or full day of guided fishing, and they can help you to work on your casting to boot 🙂 its a win/win and something I try to do atleast once every year.

    #22836

    My best advice would be to book some time on the water with a guide. You get a .5 day or full day of guided fishing, and they can help you to work on your casting to boot

    I imagine guides everywhere are cringing at this.  

    If you are trying to fish in the salt and are having these sort of problems you would probablly be best off booking a casting lesson or three though, a real casting lesson on dry land or a casting pool that is.  Fix the tailing loops on dry land and then book a guide who can offer you pointers without having to break down your entire cast on the water as he tries to put you on fish.

    Just book some lessons, you will thank yourself.

    #22837
    Avatar photoBob Riggins
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    I tend to agree with Carter to some extent.  If you plan to hire a guide to help your casting (1) make sure the guide is a qualified instructor and (2) discuss what you want to do ahead of time, so the guide can plan out the day accordingly.  

    I’ve hired guides to help teach me dry fly fishing, but I discussed this ahead of time with them and everyone was happy (even my wife who outfished me with a spinning rod).

    #22838

    Yeah, at least let the guy know ahead of time what he’s in for.

    #22839
    Avatar photoJohn Bennett
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    Can’t speak to salt water but I guess it would say it depends as with Salt you might very well be casting from a platorm, in wind and need distance, but Im honestly a bit surprised.

    All the guides Ive used are certified (in fact id problably wouldnt book with a guide whos not certified and that includes CPR)  ;D and have no problems if/when you ask them to keep an eye on aspect you might be having trouble with. Meaning, when you book make it clear that that youd either like some intruction or to keep an eye for an obvious problem in the stroke.

    meaning
    If I wanted to arange a day and for whatever reason wanted to correct an aspect or work on my double haul (for example) and the guide balked, he wouldnt get my business then or later.

    Lessons certainly are worthwhile and pound for pound better, but you can arrange that as well. Every outfitter I know offer “Learn to” which is half/half dry land and on the water. Where they cover everything from entomology, to knots, to casting and finish with a couple hours on the water.

    #22840

    Thanks for all the help.

    #22841

    When I guided I had a couple of clients that were sure they could cast but tried their absolute best to hook me in the neck.

    #22842
    dave schlick
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    #22843
    Avatar photoclark reid
    Member

    I think you summed it up with additional problem a) Davy… Most of the things outlined here are caused by commencing a forward stroke slightly earlier than is appropriate. Allowing your back-cast to fully extend should eliminate most of the casting problems outlined here.

    Clark

    You can judge a man by the size of things which annoy him.

    #22844
    dave schlick
    Member

    For me, its never been simple, and the simple fixes didnt work..

    #22845
    Rich Kovars
    Member

    That’s right.

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