Camera Technology
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I wonder what Ansel would say ?
(nice shot BTW)
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That is really a cool shot and now that I have learned a little more about composition and light it reaaly makes more sense to look at these super shots you guys post
I like it! Ansel would probably wonder if you gave like a N+3 exposure and a water bathe development in Pyro.
No flash. Thanks for the feedback. I enjoy shooting in RAW+JPG because I like to shoot in monochrome using firmware camera settings. I use filter tints. When I import into LR the RAW gets saved as a color and my JPG is saved as the monochrome setting used in camera. I can then go in and do any additional toning if needed in LR or CS4.
I mention “ADR” because I am not only impressed with the results in low-light situations but also when shooting directly into the sun. The detail is still pulled out in my subjects where their backs are facing the sun light.
Jay, do you mind elaborating on how you achieved that look without blowing out the sky, yet still kept the angler’s front side properly exposed?
Mark,
Shots like this used to be very difficult for me prior to switching platforms. There always seemed to be a trade off between loss of highlights or shadow details. Nikon’s ADR helps to address both of these issues in high-contrast situations. You still need to expose for the portions of the frame that are key to the image, but in-camera digital dynamic range is more film-like with ADR.
ADR is a huge techological improvement than most people realize. I also feel that it does not get much publicity. Digital has always had trouble with dynamic ranges and it still does not equal film. Almost any film has a very broad dynamic range. But Nikon figured out how to allow a camera to interpret a scene like the one above. It preserves both the highlights and shadows. It does a great job. I am very happy with the results straight from the camera. The shadows and highlights are clean to begin with and can even be addressed further in post process for more of an extreme effect. An example of that can be seen below:
Notice the ghosting in the image. Some photographers do not like this effect. This came from the polarizer filter on the camera lens. But I think it is a nice little touch with the sun flare.
One more shot as an example in color: Straight off the camera no post process edits other than watermark, etc.
Again, I think this is a direct result of ADR. I turned the ghosting into my advantage with this one and purposely composed the shot to ghost the rays into the angler.
Canon has a function called Highlight Tone Priority on their newer models. It is supposed to be similar in function to the ADR of the nikons, how it actually compares, i can’t say for sure. I will try and post some shots with the sun in them like that. Next time i have the opportunity, i need to fire a few with the HTP on and off for comparison.
Jay, does that blue toned and the first one one have any other exposure or contrast/tone work done to it? The clouds have a kind of HDR/High contrast look to them. Or maybe the clarity in lightroom was cranked up a bit. Thats cool if you can get that with camera!
The last shot of the river is a great one too! I like it the best so far.
Aaron O. was giving me some tips on these kinds of shots a while back, and one thing i learned is it helps alot to have the sun/sky partially obscured with clouds, an object, etc. Line it up so you get the burst, but not the full effect of the sun.
And is this (mysterious to me) ADR function one that can be undone on the raw image? Yes, what camera model is that?
Kurt, Thanks for the clarification….I failed to mention:
“ADR = Advanced Dynamic Range or … Adaptive Dynamic Range.
Nikon calls it “Active D-Lighting,” which makes no sense. I’ll pass on Nikon’s words. When you read “ADR,” you’ll only find it in your D300, D700 or D3 menu as “Adaptive D-Lighting.Kurt, do some google searches on “Nikon Adaptive Dynamic Range” and there are plenty of references made using this terminology. While I am familiar with Ken Rockwell’s site and information I have also heeded the advice of one of our local Pro’s here in UT Doug Barnes and take Ken’s advice as a grain of salt. Some of his stuff is funny/good but I do not agree with everything he states.
If there was confusion I apologize.
Also, Active D lighting is done during the shot and I have never seen increased noise, but I have seen increased protection against over exposure of highlights.
Normal D lighting is done during post processing and indeed boosts noise.
Kurt, do you shoot Nikon or Canon? Just curious. I see no noise increase in Active D Lighting. I can’t say the same when I shot with Canon using their Tone Priority. A very different type of image would turn out.
I shoot with others who shoot Nikon and I know a few of you on this board that shoot on camera bodies that use ADR.
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