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Zach Matthews.
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Feb 17, 2008 at 10:55 pm #2846
Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerI have been alternating between non-fiction and fiction lately.
Feb 18, 2008 at 7:59 pm #23486
J.T. GriffinMemberzach, can’t believe you don’t like mccarthy.
Feb 18, 2008 at 8:16 pm #23487Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerJT –
I do like him, but he isn’t my favorite.
Feb 19, 2008 at 2:49 am #23488
J.T. GriffinMemberGood points Zach.
Feb 19, 2008 at 3:01 am #23489Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerYou want hard to get through?
Feb 25, 2008 at 8:55 pm #23490Jay Hake
MemberI love McCarthy, the Border Trilogy in particular.
Feb 26, 2008 at 2:52 am #23491
J.T. GriffinMemberzach, i did read garden of eden.
Feb 26, 2008 at 2:33 pm #23492Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerHey JT –
The way I was taught it, the old guy and the girl basically switched genders…
Feb 26, 2008 at 3:32 pm #23493Rich Kovars
MemberOne of my favorites has always been Islands In the Stream.
Feb 26, 2008 at 3:59 pm #23494Phil Monahan
MemberI love “Islands in the Stream”! The blending of Kenney Rogers and Dolly’s voices is just gorgeous. ;D
Anyhoo, Zach, all that experimentation you attribute to Faulkner comes, of course, from Joyce. Faulkner just gave it a Southern accent and introduced black vernacular. Both Faulkner and (surprising to some) Hemingway were huge Joyce fans.
As for the grammarian in you that wants to fix McCarthy’s punctuation: would you also want to fix all the crooked lines on a Picasso? I can guarantee you that McCarthy knows all the rules of punctuation. Part of being a brilliant writer is bending the rules for effect. One of my favorite examples of this is Dispatches, by Michael Herr, for my money the best book about Viet Nam and the best nonfiction book ever, from a stylistic perspective.
Feb 26, 2008 at 4:08 pm #23495Rich Kovars
MemberOne of my favorite examples of this is Dispatches, by Michael Herr, for my money the best book about Viet Nam and the best nonfiction book ever, from a stylistic perspective.
Have you read The Things They Carried by Tim O’Brien? Another great book about Vietnam.
Feb 26, 2008 at 4:14 pm #23496Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerPhil –
I will defer to you on Joyce.
Feb 27, 2008 at 5:23 am #23497Aaron Otto
MemberI’m so out of my league here.
Feb 28, 2008 at 4:29 pm #23498Phil Monahan
MemberOne of the things I always tell people who want to read Ulysses or Faulkner or Pound, etc. etc. is this: You do not have to understand everything you read in order to enjoy it. There are times to simply let words and images wash over you. Yes there is a point of diminishing returns (viz Finnegans Wake), but you don’t have to read everything as if you’re gonna have to write a paper on it later. When you look at a painting, do you try to “understand” every brushstroke? Sometimes it’s great when a powerful piece of writing strikes you on a level beyond or below understanding. Sometimes I think that high-school English actually ruins reading for a lot of people.
Rich, I have read and do admire The Things They Carried, but if you’ve read Dispatches, you’ll see it’s a completely different kind of writing. Herr tries to capture the manic insanity of the war not just by describing it, but by representing it in the writing itself. I once had a semi-famous fishing writer tell me he didn’t like Dispatches because “it doesn’t have much of a plot,” and I wanted to cock-punch him. Talk about missing the point….
Feb 28, 2008 at 4:43 pm #23499Phil Monahan
MemberHere’s how Dispatches opens:
There was a map of Vietnam on the wall of my apartment in Saigon and some nights, coming back late to the city, I’d lie out on my bed and look at it, too tired to do anything more than just get my boots off. That map was a marvel, especially now that it wasn’t real anymore. For one thing, it was very old. It had been left there years before by another tenant, probably a Frenchman, since the map had been made in Paris. The paper
Feb 28, 2008 at 6:08 pm #23500Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerI have been taught The Things They Carried more times than any other novel – I think I’ve read it four times over for four different classes.
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