Big Mistake….

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  • #81950

    I Made a big mistake a couple of weeks ago. I cast the new Scott Radian. It is one of the nicest fly rods I have ever cast. The new one is on the way as we speak… 🙂

    Any body else out there fall victim as I have?

    Joel

    #81973
    Avatar photoClark Reid
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    i think they are nice rods, but in reality just another fast action rod like we’ve had available for the past 10 years or so. I personally feel some of the other manufacturers who have finally managed to make more fuller actioned rods which unload extremely fast, generating the same or higher line speed while still being full loading are on a better track. but that’s just me. be a boring old world if we all loved the same thing.

    The full loading of the earlier Scott’s is/was a beautiful thing, but in having that we sacrificed line speed. It seems others have emulated that loading without sacrificing line speed and I for one am loving that!

    #81978
    Avatar photoTim Angeli
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    I made the same “mistake” a few months ago, Joel. They’re sweet rods – the distributor here knew exactly what he was doing when he put the 905 demo in my hands. I bought the 905 when I returned the demo, and have fished the 906 as well. I wouldn’t mind getting a 10-footer too…

    The 907 and 908 are beautiful casting rods, and would be outstanding flats sticks.

    #82017

    Clark, I disagree. I think they have a lot more feel then most fast action rods. You can do a very wide range of casts very well with this rod and it is not stiff as a board like so many fast action rods out there.

    Cheers!
    Joel

    #82033
    Avatar photoClark Reid
    Member

    Fair enough, anyone can think anything…. I reckon they are just another fast rod. I’m disappointed, the hype promised us something new, but we got what the others had been doing for years and in the interim, the “others” improved on what they had been doing. Really disappointing to me.

    Radian, really nice fast rod, I love fast rods, so i love them, but it doesn’t stand out among the others… on the other hand, some of the newer rods have shaken my world.

    At the end of the day, if you love it then there is nothing else to say, except I don’t LOL.

    #82088

    Best mistake I have made too Joel, awesome stick.

    #82111
    Avatar photoClark Reid
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    If you love it, that’s all there is to it!

    #82156
    Chris Beech
    Member

    Tim, the 908 made a damn fine barra stick too!

    Best Regards,

    Beechy

    #82295
    Zach Matthews
    The Itinerant Angler

    Clark’s comments are fair, I think the rod was somewhat overhyped. One of the things I’ve learned a lot about in years of talking to rod designers is that the very best they are capable of is an incremental improvement over what came before. I think the Radian may be the best fast action rod I’ve ever thrown, but to quantify it? Is it 5% better than the next-best? 10%? I couldn’t say.

    I will say that if you go looking for a revelation–or have a revelation sold to you–when what you really have is just an incremental improvement, then you are bound to be disappointed.

    Now I do want to be clear that NONE of that over-hype was actually coming from Scott. Those guys have consistently said they are proud of the rod and happy that people like it. I have never heard or seen any advertisements touting the Radian as the best rod on the market (they typically leave claims like that to their competitors).

    I think we, as consumers and anglers, are sort of programmed to over-declare, over-praise, and then when someone else comes along and tries out what we liked, they end up scratching their heads because they aren’t holding the lightning bolt we said they would be holding.

    I have a Radian and a G2 both in 5 weight. I’ll use them situationally. I still love my G2 and will probably keep using it as my primary rod. For dry fly work, and maybe some long-distance nymphing where I need set-ability, I’ll use the Radian.

    Hell, these days the rod I use most often is the S4s 10 weight, which I still love despite it being a bit delicate for what I do with it.

    Zach

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