20-megapixel Cameras v. 6-megapixel Cameras

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  • #7209
    Zach Matthews
    The Itinerant Angler

    Hey guys –

    Using algebra and enlisting the help of a friend smarter than I, I have determined that the 20-megapixel camera Nikon is hypothetically working on will have picture dimensions of approximately 5,490 x 3,660.

    #61023
    Zach Matthews
    The Itinerant Angler

    Here’s the promised diagram:

    Note: this image is exactly to scale at 10%.

    Zach

    #61024
    Eric DeWitt
    Member

    Great illustration zach, i have tried to explain this to people several times.  This is exactly why the jump from a 6mp to a 8 or 10mp is pretty insignificant, especially if only printing 8×10.  Going from a 6 to 8 mp only yields about 1 or 2 inches larger image at printing resolutions.  

    #61025
    Zach Matthews
    The Itinerant Angler

    Good point, Eric.

    #61026
    Zach Matthews
    The Itinerant Angler

    Again, these are to 10% scale.

    Zach

    #61027
    Eric DeWitt
    Member

    That is a good one too, and my 8 mp 30D is right in the middle of the green.

    #61028

    Im sorry, but I’ve always believed Ken Rockwell to be poser and an idiot. That article just confirmed it.

    He is comparing sharpness between a 4 MP and a 12 MP camera at 768 x 539 and 100 ppi? There will not be a difference at that size. Thats like saying a $60,000 Lexus and a $10,000 Hundai both handle the same at 10 MPH.

    The only difference in “sharpness” will be in the technique and the glass used. Considering its Ken Rockwell, I’m guessing its technique.

    Then he compares exposure (?) and color. Brilliant. Ken, you genius of all things photogaphic , YOU are responsible for proper exposure, not the camera. And the color? Who compares color straight out of a camera? The 5D has 12 different color settings (if anyone even uses them) and they are irrelevant if you shoot RAW anyway – which most professional photographers do. The $150 P&S is designed to use right out of the box at “factory settings”- the 5D isn’t.

    So what is he tryng to say? A $150 P&S camera is capable of taking publishable-quality images? Of course it is under the lighting conditions with good technique. Are we supposed to be impressed with how clever he is to have figured this out on his own? Classic Rockwell.

    Man, I haven’t been to his site is ages. Thanks for the laugh!

    #61030
    Zach Matthews
    The Itinerant Angler

    There’s very little to gripe about on any digital SLR camera these days.

    #61031

    I’ve owned both the D200 and 5D. Both are excellent cameras.

    Rockwell gets some things right. The D200 is much more ergonomically intuitive than the 5D (I would argue that Nikon cameras in general are better designed as far as buttons and dials being where they should be)

    I also think the D200 is the best value out there in a camera. Period. The auto ISO feature, however, is one I would never use anyway. The 5D has the best image quality of any digital camera I have ever owned, but it comes at a price – marginal $$$ and handling. The more I shoot with this camera, the more responsive I am becoming with it, though.

    As far as Rockwell is concerned, Zack hit the nail on the head. I have a good freind in Long Beach, CA who is a well-known photographer and printer and he knows Rockwell personally. If we are ever sharing a beer sometime, I will tell you some stories. But anyone who devotes more of his website to his own biography than his images (only a slight exaggeration) and asks for donations to run it (he claims it costs him thousands to run the site) I dont take too seriously. I never have.

    For good information and reviews on Nikon products, you would be better served reading this guy instead, http://www.bythom.com

    #61032
    Zach Matthews
    The Itinerant Angler

    Yes, Thom Hogan is a former editor of Backpacker magazine and a much more reliable source generally, although I’ve never purchased one of his eBooks.

    #61033
    anonymous
    Member

    Doo doo doo doo, doo doo doo doo…

    http://www.kenrockwell.com/nm/aliens/index.htm

    Sorry…
    Back to the point, Eric’s observation is a good one. You don’t gain a whole lot in the difference between 2 megapixels everything else being equal. Zach could you put percentages on your chart? I’m too lazy with math and there is more of you number wise than me

    #61036

    Re: Ken Rockwell

    I rest my case

    #61037
    Zach Matthews
    The Itinerant Angler

    That does it.

    #61038
    Ian Crabtree
    Member

    What in the world?

    That can’t be serious. Someone please tell me that’s a joke.

    #61039
    Avatar photoMatt Jones
    Member

    Wow! That is quite an entertaining page.

    www.mattjonesphotography.com

    #61040
    Eric DeWitt
    Member

    http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/150-vs-5000-dollar-camera.htm

    As far as the $150 camera article, if people are reading that and coming away from it thinking Rockwell is saying that the p and s is a better camera, i think they are missing the point.

    #61041
    Zach Matthews
    The Itinerant Angler

    Hey Scott –

    This may help you out:

    D70/D50/D40 = 10″ X 6.6″

    D200/D80 = 12.9″ X 8.6″

    D2x/D2xs = 14.3″ X 9.5″

    “D3″ = 18.3″ X 12.2”

    Those are the “native” dimensions at full capacity at 300 dpi.

    #61042
    anonymous
    Member

    Thank you Zach, I knew you could do it

    #61043
    caleb
    Member

    Zach I think your referring to dpi but meaning ppi.

    #61044
    Zach Matthews
    The Itinerant Angler

    Caleb –

    I don’t know, Caleb.

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