20-megapixel Cameras v. 6-megapixel Cameras
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Zach Matthews.
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Feb 12, 2007 at 5:00 pm #7209
Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerHey guys –
Using algebra and enlisting the help of a friend smarter than I, I have determined that the 20-megapixel camera Nikon is hypothetically working on will have picture dimensions of approximately 5,490 x 3,660.
Feb 13, 2007 at 2:58 am #61023Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerHere’s the promised diagram:

Note: this image is exactly to scale at 10%.
Zach
Feb 13, 2007 at 7:56 pm #61024Eric DeWitt
MemberGreat illustration zach, i have tried to explain this to people several times. This is exactly why the jump from a 6mp to a 8 or 10mp is pretty insignificant, especially if only printing 8×10. Going from a 6 to 8 mp only yields about 1 or 2 inches larger image at printing resolutions.
Feb 13, 2007 at 8:07 pm #61025Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerGood point, Eric.
Feb 13, 2007 at 11:30 pm #61026Zach Matthews
The Itinerant Angler
Again, these are to 10% scale.
Zach
Feb 14, 2007 at 3:35 pm #61027Eric DeWitt
MemberThat is a good one too, and my 8 mp 30D is right in the middle of the green.
Feb 14, 2007 at 5:12 pm #61028Richard Bernabe
MemberIm sorry, but I’ve always believed Ken Rockwell to be poser and an idiot. That article just confirmed it.
He is comparing sharpness between a 4 MP and a 12 MP camera at 768 x 539 and 100 ppi? There will not be a difference at that size. Thats like saying a $60,000 Lexus and a $10,000 Hundai both handle the same at 10 MPH.
The only difference in “sharpness” will be in the technique and the glass used. Considering its Ken Rockwell, I’m guessing its technique.
Then he compares exposure (?) and color. Brilliant. Ken, you genius of all things photogaphic , YOU are responsible for proper exposure, not the camera. And the color? Who compares color straight out of a camera? The 5D has 12 different color settings (if anyone even uses them) and they are irrelevant if you shoot RAW anyway – which most professional photographers do. The $150 P&S is designed to use right out of the box at “factory settings”- the 5D isn’t.
So what is he tryng to say? A $150 P&S camera is capable of taking publishable-quality images? Of course it is under the lighting conditions with good technique. Are we supposed to be impressed with how clever he is to have figured this out on his own? Classic Rockwell.
Man, I haven’t been to his site is ages. Thanks for the laugh!
Feb 14, 2007 at 9:06 pm #61030Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerThere’s very little to gripe about on any digital SLR camera these days.
Feb 14, 2007 at 9:31 pm #61031Richard Bernabe
MemberI’ve owned both the D200 and 5D. Both are excellent cameras.
Rockwell gets some things right. The D200 is much more ergonomically intuitive than the 5D (I would argue that Nikon cameras in general are better designed as far as buttons and dials being where they should be)
I also think the D200 is the best value out there in a camera. Period. The auto ISO feature, however, is one I would never use anyway. The 5D has the best image quality of any digital camera I have ever owned, but it comes at a price – marginal $$$ and handling. The more I shoot with this camera, the more responsive I am becoming with it, though.
As far as Rockwell is concerned, Zack hit the nail on the head. I have a good freind in Long Beach, CA who is a well-known photographer and printer and he knows Rockwell personally. If we are ever sharing a beer sometime, I will tell you some stories. But anyone who devotes more of his website to his own biography than his images (only a slight exaggeration) and asks for donations to run it (he claims it costs him thousands to run the site) I dont take too seriously. I never have.
For good information and reviews on Nikon products, you would be better served reading this guy instead, http://www.bythom.com
Feb 14, 2007 at 9:37 pm #61032Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerYes, Thom Hogan is a former editor of Backpacker magazine and a much more reliable source generally, although I’ve never purchased one of his eBooks.
Feb 14, 2007 at 10:05 pm #61033anonymous
MemberDoo doo doo doo, doo doo doo doo…
http://www.kenrockwell.com/nm/aliens/index.htm
Sorry…
Back to the point, Eric’s observation is a good one. You don’t gain a whole lot in the difference between 2 megapixels everything else being equal. Zach could you put percentages on your chart? I’m too lazy with math and there is more of you number wise than meFeb 14, 2007 at 10:30 pm #61036Richard Bernabe
MemberRe: Ken Rockwell
I rest my case
Feb 14, 2007 at 11:01 pm #61037Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerThat does it.
Feb 14, 2007 at 11:26 pm #61038Ian Crabtree
MemberWhat in the world?
That can’t be serious. Someone please tell me that’s a joke.
Feb 15, 2007 at 12:34 am #61039
Matt JonesMemberWow! That is quite an entertaining page.
www.mattjonesphotography.com
Feb 15, 2007 at 3:35 am #61040Eric DeWitt
Memberhttp://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/150-vs-5000-dollar-camera.htm
As far as the $150 camera article, if people are reading that and coming away from it thinking Rockwell is saying that the p and s is a better camera, i think they are missing the point.
Feb 15, 2007 at 5:41 pm #61041Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerHey Scott –
This may help you out:
D70/D50/D40 = 10″ X 6.6″
D200/D80 = 12.9″ X 8.6″
D2x/D2xs = 14.3″ X 9.5″
“D3″ = 18.3″ X 12.2”
Those are the “native” dimensions at full capacity at 300 dpi.
Feb 15, 2007 at 7:11 pm #61042anonymous
MemberThank you Zach, I knew you could do it
Feb 15, 2007 at 10:45 pm #61043caleb
MemberZach I think your referring to dpi but meaning ppi.
Feb 15, 2007 at 10:55 pm #61044Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerCaleb –
I don’t know, Caleb.
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