Yellowstone Angler 4 Weight Shootout!

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  • #5887
    david king
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    #51743
    Jeff Kopanic
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    yellowstoneangler.com is an extreme guilty pleasure for me.

    #51744
    anonymous
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    I feel for those who are suckered in by this propaganda and buy rods based off it.

    #51745
    Avatar photoPeter E.
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    I agree, complete junk. I think instead I should be sent all off these rods and I will test them. Yeah.

    Ok no but the point is that these sorts of things are great. It helps new anglers to get a feel for a rod before they buy it. Plus if they have feel like they have a good understanding of what they are after, then going into a fly-shop isn’t as intimidating for some people. I don’t think anyone takes it as gospel, and I’m all for more available information that may help get people into the sport.

    Besides, what makes one opinion more valid than another?

    #51746
    Avatar photoRoy Conley
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    For me the results were no surprise.

    #51747

    Though they’re finally trying to be equitable with line choice, if a 4 weight rod needs a 4-1/2 weight line to work right is it really a 4 weight rod?
    I can’t understand why they just don’t used the line that the rod is rated to need. On not one of the rods tested were they labeled 4.5 weights.

    #51748
    Avatar photoGeorge F.
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    It is very interesting to read but I question it’s value.

    #51749
    John S.
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    While I enjoy reading these “shootouts” and think they are fun, in reality they serve no real purpose and offer little value.

    My favorite 4wt – Scott 8’8″ G2 – came in tied for 8th place . . . . . . Big Deal

    #51750

    Every fly shop around will give you their Biased opinion and this one is no different.

    There really are not any bad rods on the market these days, but there are bad rod/line combinations and finding what works for you is where the fun begins as a consumer.

    I borrowed or bought a dozen 4wts before settling on one that became my favorite and I have had a lot of fun trying new lines every year or two

    #51751
    Avatar photonone
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    Pretty funny to read how many of you criticize the Shootout.
    I am pretty sure that George Anderson knows what he is talking about. And I’m sure he is a great caster as well. Together I have no doubt their Shooutout tells the differences between the various rods.

    Now, nobody tells you to buy the rods that are tested. You just fish the rod you like and nobody gets a bad mood.

    I for one like to cast the new fastish rods for sheer casting enjoyment (tight & smooth loops, 80+ ft distances, etc.) but I like to fish with a moderate action rod. most of my rods are golden oldies (Sage LL, SP, Orvis Superfine, Scott G2, bamboos). And I rarely cast more than 50 feet when fishing.

    #51752
    B.R. Snow
    Member

    I am guessing he runs a shop and needs to sell rods. A good way to sell a few more. BR

    #51753

    I haven’t bothered to read the details, but if I recall, they never do these tests “blind”.

    #51754
    Chris Beech
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    Its pretty easy to identify rods even with the make/model covered up. Just match the colours & fittings.
    Its a shame that some of the newer Scott models weren’t in the mix – like the S4, A4 or F series #4 weights, but it is an interesting read nonetheless.

    Best Regards,

    Beechy

    #51755

    I agree – which is why I suggest they build up the blanks with identical components.

    #51756

    Make the rods visually indistinguishable, the way a blind taste test would be done with wine or whatever, and then I’d pay more attention.

    Back before plastic bikes became all the rage a magazine had a famous frame builder build up bikes using steel tube sets from different major manufacturers of the time (Reyolds, Columbus et al) The frames were then built up identically. The only difference other than tube material was a little number placed on the top tube which the evaluators used to write their finding on. This was truly an unbiased test and proved that those who ‘knew’ one frame material was superior to another were being partial to a brand other than cold, hard reality.
    I’ve longed to see a truly inpartial test like this for fly rods for a long, long time. I think the major stumbling block is that magazines do not want to upset their major advertisers and dealers do not want to lose a product line or take risks with their profit margins.

    Zach, a story along these lines would endear you to everyone but a few manufacturers. C’mon man, get right on it. I see a Pulitzer in your future if any magazine had the guts to run an article like this. You get the hardware, we’ll do the blind build and testing at the FFF Concl… err… Festival later this year.

    #51757
    John S.
    Member

    While I continue to feel these “shootouts” don’t add much, someone else may find them helpful, so I think George Anderson / Yellowstone Angler deserves credit for doing them.

    If these “shootouts” are such a gold mine to the Yellowstone angler, wouldn’t other flyshops do something similar?

    #51758

    I for one appreciate the efforts put into and the info provided from ‘shootouts’ like this. Another term for what Yellowstone Angler did could be a ‘Gear Review”. Most of the flyfishing mags include gear reviews.
    How many out there look at consumer reports before buying a car, or an appliance? How many of you cigar smokers look at the ratings of your chosen cigar in Cigar Afficiando (flyfishers love cigars

    #51759

    Where are the hardy rods manufactured?

    #51760
    Jeff Kopanic
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    The Hardy Zenith is made in Korea.

    #51761
    Avatar photoStu Hastie
    Member

    Dang. I had a lend of one of them Sage TXL-F’s, fell in love with it, and then lost it at the river

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