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Oct 3, 2007 at 1:11 am #2505
charlie kreitler
MemberI’m toying with the idea of buying another toy… an Orvis Superfine 1 weight for brook trout on small streams. I can cast it, but that’s different than fishing it. Anyone have experience with one, or even with similarly light rods? I’m curious as to what limitations they have in terms of fly size you can cast, fish size you’d feel comfortable fighting, and overall experience. Can they cast nymphs or small streamers? My lightest rod to date is a 5-weight, so this would be a significant change. I want to make sure this would a toy I’d use, not just collect dust and my wife’s ire.
Thanks!
CK
Oct 3, 2007 at 1:36 am #20412spencer ballard
MemberI am not sure of your circumstances, a great deal on a 1 weight or just looking for a second rod…
Oct 3, 2007 at 4:10 am #20413Darrin Terry
MemberCharlie, check your PM.
Darrin
Oct 3, 2007 at 6:16 am #20414patrick mccormick
MemberI totally love fishing 3 wts. I’ll fight anything on one if I have the time and the right reel, watched my budy catch a king on his once, and boy those 16 inch rainbows sure seem huge with the 3 wt.
Oct 3, 2007 at 9:47 am #20415
David AndersonMemberI agree that a 1 (depending on the action of course ) is pretty far down the scale, you might get a better allround twig with a 2 weight in mid length (7 -8 feet ish)..
Or a short 3, they throw hoppers and larger dries pretty easy yet are still twiggy in feel.
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Oct 3, 2007 at 12:34 pm #20416
noneMemberIf you really want to do some special ultra light fishing, try a 7ft #2 or a #3 bamboo fly rod!
Eventhough it’s rated for
Oct 3, 2007 at 1:07 pm #20417
Cameron MortensonMemberI’ve heard somewhere, and it is good information, that you should round you collection of fly rods out by two weights.
Oct 3, 2007 at 3:27 pm #20418Mike L.
MemberThe superfine is even worse with the bulky fles or nymph rigs than rods of comperable line weight.
Oct 3, 2007 at 3:36 pm #20419spencer ballard
MemberCameron, I thought you might chime in with the Scott F 703 recommendation.
Oct 3, 2007 at 3:54 pm #20420charlie kreitler
MemberThanks guys, that sounds like good advice. I might pick up the 1-weight if I can get a really good deal on it, but even then I’d still need to buy a reel and line for it. Suddenly the good deal is expensive and I might be better off with a short 3-wt.
Oct 3, 2007 at 5:56 pm #20421Mike Anderson
MemberI have an SLT 1wt that sits at home most of the time. Any wind at all and you can forget it. I love my Dancraft SigV 3wt.
Oct 3, 2007 at 7:06 pm #20422
Mike McKeownMemberBeing a small stream fanatic, I would like to add a few cents… probably only 2, but here goes…
Understand that supper light weight rods are very specialized and that there applications are dominated by the prevailing conditions. A slight down stream breeze can ruin an afternoons fishing if you are under gunned and battling to turn over a leader with a bushy dry on the end of it. Or if you are trying to throw a weighted nymph on a dry fly rig.
If you are only going to have one stick for the small stream stuff, choose a stick that will offer you the best all round solution.
I am luck to have been mentored by a local small stream guide and between the 2 of us we have built up a collection of rods that suite almost all our conditions. From quick action 3w’s to supper light 000w Sages…
I would go with a 2w, either a Scott G2, or a Thomas and Thomas LPS, both in the 8’ range. Although shorter rods seem to be a great idea for small streams, we have been going back to the 7’6” to 8’ sticks, as they offer better line control, especially aerial mends, roll casting, bow & arrow and steeple casts. I know that there is a lot more to it, and you would think that a 6’6” rod would be far better, but they require more skill, more false casts, and you really have to time your mends. There is a time and place for a shortie, but as a semi-general purpose light rod, I would rather grip the rod up the blank to shorten it when needed.
Sorry guys, but I don’t believe that a fiberglass rod, as a first small stream rod is not the best idea, make no mistake they are awesome rods, but medium/slow to progressive action is probably the right way to.
Oct 3, 2007 at 8:08 pm #20423Jay Hake
MemberI would concur on the 3wt.
Oct 3, 2007 at 8:21 pm #20424spencer ballard
MemberThe Scott F is not as slow as you might think, I can actually haul the line with this rod and snap the line out there when the wind picks up.
Oct 4, 2007 at 4:57 am #20425Mark Landerman
MemberI have the Orvis Superfine in a 2 wt. and have tossed everything with it……….I mean everything.
Even got a 8 lb. pink tossing a heavy streamer in AK.Oct 23, 2007 at 2:40 am #20426lestrout
MemberCharlie – on the plus side for 1wts, you can use a running line or the back end of a used up WF 3-5wt for a line.
Oct 23, 2007 at 8:13 am #20427
noneMemberThe superfine is even worse with the bulky fles or nymph rigs than rods of comperable line weight. I had a 3 weight superfine and though I loved it would not bother bring it for any kind of indy nymphing, streamer fishing or terrestrial fishing.
I disagree.
I’ve tossed everything from dries, streamers to heavy nymph rigs with the Superfine Tippet (7,5ft #3). No problem at all.
The 7,5ft length is superb for fishing from small mountain streams to medium sized rivers.
Big fish is no problem either. You can put a lot of pressure on the rod.Both rods are Orvis Tippets. The black hardware is a rod from (I think) around 2002 and the bright hardware rod is a rod from 1978(!). I sold the new one to my buddy and kept the older version.

Oct 23, 2007 at 8:45 am #20428
noneMemberBy the way, I just love the Orvis Superfine grips (cork grip tapered down to the blank, reel rings) ! ;D
Here’s the same grip from a 1968 Superfine (the bamboo rod series was named this way) bamboo rod series.
Oct 23, 2007 at 1:18 pm #20429charlie kreitler
MemberOnce again, guys, thanks for the insights!
Oct 23, 2007 at 1:50 pm #20430
Stuart WenigerMemberCharlie
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