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  • #3932
    Zach Matthews
    The Itinerant Angler

    Hey guys –

    I just want to spark a discussion here and see if we can’t move the meter a bit on some of these websites.

    Throw out the fly fishing (manufacturers’) websites which you think to be the best and worst and tell me why.  I am not looking for non-manufacturing websites since we all know that [s:f90vz1hv]The Itinerant Angler[/s:f90vz1hv] MidCurrent is the clear winner.  I am interested in both design and functionality.

    Best

    Hardy (http://fly.hardyfishing.com/en-us/home/).  Super-classy, easy on the eyes, easy to navigate.  Leave it to the Brits to put together the most sensible fly fishing website.  Plus, it’s frequently updated to stay up with the times.  Note the curved corners on the navigational menus (this shows the designers are actual professionals who know how to use CSS).

    Patagonia (http://www.patagonia.com).  Let’s be honest, this site looks like a million bucks.  Which is also what it cost.

    Worst

    Lamson-Waterworks (http://www.waterworks-lamson.com) – First, why is Waterworks even still a part of this business?  Lamson is clearly where all the action has been for the last five years.  Second, why has the website not been updated since 2001?  Lamson is seriously making the coolest-looking, most-up-to-date reels in the industry.  The style may not appeal to everyone but everyone can agree that a company capable of pushing the envelope with the reel this much should be able to put together a coherent website.

    Most Improved (Special Category)

    Clearly, it’s Cortland Line – (http://www.cortlandline.com).  Cortland’s website was a morass of broken links with a layout that looked like a rhinoceros humping a refrigerator.  The new site isn’t the most innovative but at least it won’t induce schizophrenia, and the color combinations are quite nice.

    A for Effort Award

    Hatch Reels – (http://www.hatchoutdoors.com/)  Bonus points for great photography and sweet use of Photoshop eraser brushes.  Points deducted for all-Flash layout (but let’s be honest, if you can’t afford Flash, you can’t afford a Hatch reel anyway, right?)  Also, the random uncoded gibberish on the bottom of the splash page looks like a pimple on Halle Berry’s [s:f90vz1hv]ass[/s:f90vz1hv] cheek.

    Bring the wood.

    Zach

    (Edit: I’m told TFO actually is revising their site.

    #34452
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    OK…I’ll bite.

    I agree with you Zach on the Hardy site.

    #34453
    Avatar photoTim Angeli
    Member

    Thumbs Up
    Fishpond (http://www.fishpondusa.com/) – Easy to navigate and great photography.

    Simms (http://www.simmsfishing.com/) – Easy to navigate, good layout, nice features (product info, photos, videos, etc).

    Major Thumbs Down
    Lamson-Waterworks (http://waterworks-lamson.com) – I’ll reiterate what Zach already said: for a company that is producing such good products, their website is down-right disgraceful.  

    -Tim

    #34454
    Rich Kovars
    Member

    Thumbs up:

    Fishpond.   Product photography is good.  Site is very easy to navigate.  There are just a couple of clicks to get to the goods.  The look and feel is dead on as well.

    I second Patagonia as being excellent, but I think the main page could be a little cleaner.  There is a lot of stuff there that doesn’t need to be.  

    Thumbs Down:

    Scientific Anglers.  Being integrated into 3m’s corporate site just makes it clunky.  It also makes URL’s ridiculous.  You pretty much can’t get there without Google.  I don’t like the sidebar.  There is just too many clicks to find the info you need.

    #34455
    Zach Matthews
    The Itinerant Angler

    Hey guys –

    This is actually going pretty good and you’ve brought some things to my attention that I wouldn’t have thought of.  I like Abel’s huge reel photos on white a lot, for instance.

    Now let’s throw out a few fly shop awards.  I don’t want to have a Worst category here because fly shops mostly lack the funding the manufacturers have (or should have) for their websites.  And thus, the average fly shop site looks like Stephen Colbert’s fake Colbert Nation site (only it’s not a fake).  But there are some very good ones.  I used to comb through the nation’s fly shop websites to write the Hotspots column in American Angler.

    Best Fly Shop Websites

    Leland Fly Fishing Outfitters – (http://www.flyfishingoutfitters.com/) Probably the best use of a logo in fly fishing retail anywhere.  

    Little River Outfitters – (http://www.littleriveroutfitters.com) Less for their design (though I certainly approve the photography, ha) and more for Byron Begley’s quirky, down-home fishing report, which is one of the best blogs on the internet even though it’s not actually a blog.

    The Fly Shop of Redding International Travel – (http://www.flyfishingtravel.com/) This is the travel offshoot of The Fly Shop’s main site.  The main site I find a lot less engaging but this one is excellent.

    Four Rivers Fishing Company – (http://www.4riversmontana.com/) The Twin Bridges fly shop; very nice site.

    Zach

    #34456
    matt boutet
    Member

    I just visited the Hatch site for the first time.

    #34457

    Four Rivers Fishing Company – (http://www.4riversmontana.com/) The Twin Bridges fly shop; very nice site.

    I was going to wait til tomorrow on my lunch to post, because I wanted to take the time to really give my thoughts to all of the sites listed .. til I saw this post!

    Thats my site! Super stoked that you called it out as being good and not super suck! 🙂 Worked my a$$ off on it last summer/fall! Feel free to drop Greg an email and let him know you liked it! . I really made an effort to build off the whole ‘western’ feel/theme with the site.

    #34458
    Zach Matthews
    The Itinerant Angler

    You did a good job, Corey.

    #34459
    greg ellis
    Member

    Planning a September trip to Montana and stumbled on the 4 Rivers website.  Impressive [smiley=thumbup.gif]

    #34460
    jeff s
    Member

    Zach,
    I’d have to give some more thought and come up with specific examples.

    #34461

    You did a good job, Corey.  I was wondering where they got the photography.  The use of a big fat PNG logo that comes up first is very nice and I like the way you layered the DIVs to have the shadows stay consistent.  Very nice.

    Thanks Zach .. Was a fun site to do. Was the first time I dug in and used sIFR for my text, I think it also added quite a bit to the site.

    Planning a September trip to Montana and stumbled on the 4 Rivers website.  Impressive [smiley=thumbup.gif]

    Cool and thanks .. I’m really looking forward to checking out their full-moon night floats on the Maddy!



    As far as the big sites go…  

    At the bottom

    Temple Fork. They really NEED a better site. I even sent them an email about it a couple of years ago. It does not encourage me to buy one of their rods, even though I like them.

    Lamson-Waterworks. Ouch.

    At the top

    The Simms and Fishpond sites are very nice IMO.

    My fav that has not been mentioned is the St. Croix site ( http://www.stcroixrods.com/ ). IMO it has a real nice individual look and feel that sets it apart.

    #34462
    Zach Matthews
    The Itinerant Angler

    Hey Jeff –

    That’s very interesting insight.  One thing that none of the manufacturers have done, but which they could easily do, is actually have their designers explain in plain English what it is that they make and how they do it.

    For instance, if you go to Sage’s website you’ll see a lot of terminology thrown around like “Generation 5,” etc.  I’ve never been able to pin anyone down on what that term really means: I think it is Sage’s catch-all phrase for a whole cluster of little tweaks they’ve made in their scrim layout and taper design.  Obviously, Sage is super good at what it does or they wouldn’t be on top of the heap.

    #34463
    Avatar photoMike McKeown
    Member

    Great thread and idea Zach…

    I agree with all the above, can really comment on much else, but I will troll…

    I do have one that I like for many reasons, Scott, they change it every year or so, and every time it seems to give me more info on the company, products and processes.

    If I could, or if you would be so inclined, could you edit your first post and put all the “Hot” and “Not’s” in it as a post script??

    #34464
    Zach Matthews
    The Itinerant Angler

    As far as TFO goes, I was being facetious in my first thread and probably wasn’t very nice to them.

    #34465

    As far as TFO goes, I was being facetious in my first thread and probably wasn’t very nice to them.  I know that their management is aware of the need to update the site, but you have to admit that their internet marketing decisions have almost always been spot-on.  They wouldn’t have become the very relevant player they are today if they hadn’t used the web well.  But I do agree with you, Corey, that the time has come for an update, as it eventually does for all web sites (this one included).

    Hope I didnt sound to harsh … I have a TICRX 9wt and love it. Glad to hear will be putting up a new site!


    I would ask for regular photo essays from my guides, reps, and contributors and I’d lace them together into a This Is Fly-style monthly presentation, which would be fed out to the loyal users via newsletter.  


    I would “sell” as many stickers as a user wanted for the cost of shipping, and I would hold periodic contests for useful things like new advertising ideas or product concepts, giving away logo’ed schwag to keep people coming back.

    I couldnt agree with you more here .. RSS feeds, contests, stickers, swag … All that stuff that ‘reminds’ your customers how cool your product is and lets them be involved. Should be key to any online marketing campaign, IMO.

    #34466
    anonymous
    Member

    Not a flyshop site, or a fly fishing manufacturer, but if you dig mountain bikes, Kona bikes has a good one,

    #34467
    Mike Cline
    Member

    Planning a September trip to Montana and stumbled on the 4 Rivers website.  Impressive [smiley=thumbup.gif]

    Please stumble on to: http://www.thestoneflyinn.com/
    Rooster Leven used to be part owner of 4 Rivers until their parting two year’s ago.

    #34468
    jeff s
    Member

    It seems to me that a manufacturer could easily duplicate large parts of what makes this site successful and use that to strengthen brand loyalty and recognition, but no one has really tried it yet.

    #34469
    Morsie
    Member

    I think Rio have a great (as in very useful and informative) web site. The taper layouts and the spey rod/line references are excellent.

    Some companies certainly don’t take it as seriously as I think they could. There are some substantial opportunities being missed.

    Morsie

    #34470
    Avatar photoclark reid
    Member

    I reckon http://www.umpqua.com is first rate.

    You can judge a man by the size of things which annoy him.

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