Old Town Guide/Discovery 119 versus Pack 12

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    Zach Matthews
    The Itinerant Angler

    Hey canoe guys (Mike Lewis? Scott?) –

    Has anyone tried to stand up and fish in either of the two shorter Old Town models? I am in a two man Guide 147 right now, and it is a great boat, but I would love to see how much stability I lost trying to do my thing in the shorter versions. I think I lose almost 8 inches of width so I am sure it will be more tippy, but at this point I have 500+ hours of stand up fishing from a canoe and I think I could handle it unless it is just impossible.

    Zach

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    Avatar photoMike Lewis
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    I own one of each and you’re welcome to try either. Pack is 33 lb and 119 is 43 lb per manufacturer, but I would like to actually weight each one on day. Probably could do it holding the boat on a bathroom scale. But I don’t have a bathroom scale. The pack feels FAR lighter.

    With my Pack: I’ve stood while fly fishing in the pack in shallow salt flats in the Florida panhandle. It’s a “splashy” ride (like riding in an old Cadillac with bad shocks) in that you are kind of bouncing around as the bottom of the boat oil cans a bit. Still it was doable.

    http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae184/ccorneli/Cape%20San%20Blas%202012/IMGP2428.jpg

    For the next trip down there I am getting rid of the “angler” plastic seat as it is really in the way and putting in a simple flat wood with woven mesh can seat. Should make sitting down from the standing position easier.

    As for the 119 – I haven’t used it much as it is my boat for guests, but I would imaging it would be easier to stand in as it weighs more and has a stiffer plastic hull, although this is purely speculation.

    I will note that it is far easier to stand in the pack barefoot. Flats booties are OK, but my usual Simms wader boots are tough to maintain balance.

    That riverpirate guy (Randy Vining I believe) posts on ga river fishing a alot that he took teh seat completely out of his pack and stands in it all the time.

    -Mike

    #87476
    Zach Matthews
    The Itinerant Angler

    Mike –

    I’d like to give them a shot if you don’t mind some time. Maybe you don’t need that guest 119 as bad as you think? 😉

    Zach

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