Saving goal? – Which lens?
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Jul 25, 2011 at 5:12 am #8596
Simon ChuMemberOk. As a longtime lurker on the photography section, I have finally taken the plunge and bought my first DSLR. A Canon 550D. I think in the US it is called a Rebel?
Anyhow I managed to swap the kit lens for a 50mm 1.4 and am trying to learn how to take good shots with it.I’m enjoying the journey! 🙂
I can see how it is addictive!But now I am thinking, what lens do I save for next?
A 10-22 was certainly on my wish list.Any thoughts for which lens next? This will give me a savings goal!
Jul 25, 2011 at 9:55 am #72609
David AndersonMemberWell done on the DSLR Simon.
The 50 1.4 is an awesome lens, very sharp and great value.
IMHO a fast prime lens like the 50 is a must for good photography.
As a side note – I didn’t like the 50 1.4 much below f2, but by f 5.6/8 it’s as good as almost any other lens around.For a second lens you will need a wide angle and as wide as you can get for all those awesome south island views you have.
The 10-22 is a good option, though rumors suggest that there’s a couple new lenses coming soon including replacements for the existing wide angle zooms like the 16-35 and 17-40.
They may be worth waiting if for no other reason then the current models will drop in price.
One new lens rumored is a 14-24 L series.I’ll post something if I hear anything concrete.
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A picture is thousand words that takes less than a second while a thousand words is a picture that takes a month.
Jul 25, 2011 at 4:08 pm #72610wraysinclair
Memberone thing to keep in mind if you really like photography and ever intend on going full frame even if it is a few years out purchase lenses that will work on both cameras. It is what i am doing and really like it. so i just got my prime, telephoto, and wide angle so it would work on full frame also but are great lenses on a crop frame.
i do have the 17-40 and absolutly love it. If a new lens comes out then the price on the current L wide angles will drop. which could be good!
Jul 25, 2011 at 7:58 pm #72611Mike Anderson
MemberThe 24-105 is an awesome walk around lens and not to shabby for portrait work either. A 70-200 is another very useful focal length and the non IS F4 in the L series is a great value.
Jul 25, 2011 at 8:39 pm #72612
John BennettMemberIm going to go a bit against the grain..not much just a bit.
The draw to start adding lenses is strong, I generally try to counsel first time buyers to resist adding as long as possible.Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong, I’m working on assumptions and this being your first DSLR, I’m assuming you know some nuances but not a lot. Generally speaking I think people would be best served by discovering where their interest lie and then targeting specific lenses tailored to those interest. In the coarse of taking that approach a person will learn more about what makes one lens different from the next, and which therefore might be best suited to their interest/preferences.
For but one example.
We could suggest the 24-105 f4.0 or the 24-70 f2.8
Two very similiar lenses, with subtle differences. Each “best” suited to two different kinds of applications (although related). A little further away in application but still somewhat similiar is the 17-40 f4.In time you would have a better understanding of those differences and which then might be the one best for you, for your preferences etc.Alternatively you might prefer (discover) a mid range lens as you tend to be in situations where you like a little more reach, a little more often before a WA or walk around. etc,etc.
Long winded way of saying take some time, learn and discover a bit both about photogrpahy..and yourself, your preferences and where/how you tend to find you’d like X but don’t have it, and in the process you will develop a yearning for a certain lens that does certain things better than others.
You might buy the 24-105 f4 this week, only to come to realize for what you do “usually”, IS isnt terribly important in that range and rather love shooting wide open, with selective focus, in which case the choice would be the 24-70 f2.8 or vice versa.
Jul 25, 2011 at 9:19 pm #72613Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerI resisted for a long time and I am glad I did. I am still learning how to really use my equipment after several years.
After the advice I received on this forum I was glad I bought a used Canon 17-85mm f4 IS lens for our trip our West. I used that lens a lot more than my used Canon 70-300mm f5.6 IS or my Canon 24mm f2.8.
Buying used lenses saved me money, thanks again to the guys on this forum, and the lenses were in excellent shape. Before I buy another lens I plan on researching and buying some quality filters.
Jul 26, 2011 at 1:39 am #72614
Tim AngeliMemberI’m going through the same thought process now…need to upgrade to some better glass.
Jul 26, 2011 at 5:57 am #72615
Tim AngeliMemberThe 10-22 is a good option, though rumors suggest that there’s a couple new lenses coming soon including replacements for the existing wide angle zooms like the 16-35 and 17-40.
They may be worth waiting if for no other reason then the current models will drop in price.David, any idea when the new models are expected to be announced and/or become available?
Jul 26, 2011 at 7:07 am #72616
David AndersonMemberThe 10-22 is a good option, though rumors suggest that there’s a couple new lenses coming soon including replacements for the existing wide angle zooms like the 16-35 and 17-40.
They may be worth waiting if for no other reason then the current models will drop in price.David, any idea when the new models are expected to be announced and/or become available? Â
The 10 million dollar question.. 😉
Obviously the tsunami/earthquake situation has held things up and it’s been a lean year so far for new stuff.
Also, a lot of the new models already announced are running late.
That said, I hear some new lens announcements will be in August – so not long to wait..A sure sign, if such a thing exists is a drop in prices on current models.
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A picture is thousand words that takes less than a second while a thousand words is a picture that takes a month.
Jul 26, 2011 at 8:41 am #72617
Simon ChuMemberI knew this would be a great place for excellent advice.
John, this is my first DSLR and thats sound advice. I’m the first to admit that I am a shocker for being patient. I will try harder :-[DA. Thanks. I’m learning about f stops and all this new language. I’m trying hard to shoot with the 50 and am loving it.
I’m not sure what the difference between full frame and not is?
Jul 26, 2011 at 11:35 am #72618
David AndersonMemberI’m not sure what the difference between full frame and not is?
A full frame is a camera with a sensor the same size as 35 mm film.
In Canon, that’s the 5D, 5DII and 1DsIII
In the other models the sensor is a bit smaller.The main thing that changes is the perspective of the lens because if the sensor is smaller it’s only using the centre part of the image.
The advantage of a smaller sensor is you’re getting more reach and depth of field (amount of shot in focus front to back for any given Fstop) out of your longer lenses, but you’re losing width on your wides.For example, the 24 – (?) zooms that people are recommending in above posts (IMHO) are not wide enough to get big sky landscape shots on your camera, but gain at the telephoto end and might be better for macro and long shots.
As mentioned though, if you ever upgrade to a full frame camera, lenses like the 10-22 will be no good to you where the 24-105 will be awesome.You could argue to the death over full frame vs. cropped sensor.. 😎
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A picture is thousand words that takes less than a second while a thousand words is a picture that takes a month.
Jul 26, 2011 at 2:11 pm #72619
John BennettMemberSimon what I might do “for now” is go to one of your larger local stores and see if you can acquire a standard 17-55 “kit lens”. You should be able to find one for a song and dance. Or see if any friends who have had DSLRs for awhile have one kicking around. A lot of people do given they get it as a “kit” lens and then upgrade it, leaving them with an inexpensive paper weight.
Build quality isn’t great, optically it’s ok.
That would give you WA coverage (17-55) to play around with and the 50 f1.4 to use when fishing, low light, kids, around the house etc.Use that while you get a sense of what you like to shoot, whether features like IS or faster glass has any relevance to you etc, etc.
Then when your ready pull the trigger on something nicer and in line with what you enjoy shooting. -
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