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  • #6571
    nathan rees
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    Here’s one I have been working on:

    Hopefully the ‘skies will cooperate as the weather cools.

    #57620
    Avatar photoTim Angeli
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    How long is that bad boy?

    #57621
    nathan rees
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    9 in. I tie them from 8 up to 12.

    #57622
    Neal Osborn
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    Nathan, that is a good looking fly.  If you don’t mind, could you please fully wet the fly in the sink and squeeze out the air bubbles and then post a picture of the fly wet.  I want to see the profile wet because I’m concerned that the large amount of bulk on the back end (9 inches) might overpower the smaller spun deer head.  It looks like you might end up with a reverse taper (rocket shape).  Also, is that fly articulated? Does it tend to foul around the hook?

    #57623
    nathan rees
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    It doesnt foul to often unless I get sloppy with my casting toward the end of the day. The head floats and yes it is articulated it has a piece of 40 pound steel leader attached to both hooks which is then wrapped with poly yarn and tied down with marabou. The head floats and the google eyes add a rattle and more floatation to the head. It does a sweet job in the water of pushing and bobbing its head up and down. Also the marabou breathes very well during the stripping of the fly.

    Here’s a picture:

    Sorry for the bad quality i dont have a sink plug here in my dorm room so I had to use the spoon.

    #57624
    Neal Osborn
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    Thanks Nathan, that picture of the fly underwater really helps to get a visual feel on the profile.

    #57625
    nathan rees
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    Yeah I am just learning to spin ans stack so hopefully I will get it down soon. Thanks Neal.

    #57626
    Neal Osborn
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    You might want to tie up a few with a bulkier head and maybe 2 inches shorter on the back end.  Who knows?  With articulated bulky flies I have found that the head needs to be proportioned to the body and length so it looks fat up front and gently tapered in the back (nothing in the water is bulkier at the back vs the front, that’s what I meant by a “rocket” shape).  My articulated patterns are constantly evolving and it seems like I’m always cutting the material off and starting over once I see them in the water.  I really think Kelly Galloup nailed it with the Sex Dungeon pattern; notice the loosely spun deer heads on that fly and the bulky profile which almost looks like a Dalberg Diver profile, that is about a perfect taper imho.  

    Notice this picture from my recent DIY shadow box post.  I mention that these are collectable only to me and the reason is that the heads were all wrong.  They were too skinny and lacked the bulky profile – i.e. they all have the undesirable rocket shape.  My patterns have evolved greatly since these early attempts and thus I decided to keep the failures as a memory.  If you look closely you will see the heads are all crap and out of proportion to the bodies; none of them fished well in the water, especially in moving river currents with a sinking line.

    FYI; imho the key to creating articulated flies is to create a big profile with very very very little material.

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