wacky worm fly?
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Jim Witham.
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Apr 19, 2009 at 12:31 am #6540
Jim Witham
MemberI catch a lot of bass on spinning tackle with 5-7 inch rubber worms rigged “wacky” style: you push the hook point through the worm about 1/3 of the way from the head and let both ends of the worm hang over bend of the hook like a droopy mustache. A slow retrieve makes the worm undulate like something alive and very attractive to bass. My question: has anyone designed a fly that would look like this and have the same action? I’d love to be able to catch bass on my fly rod with this technique as I do with spinning tackle.
Apr 20, 2009 at 2:48 pm #57372Ronnie Moore
MemberI have a fly like that and the smallies of the Ozarks love them. I’ll post some pictures later tonight.
Apr 20, 2009 at 7:46 pm #57373cole m.
MemberI have a fly like that and the smallies of the Ozarks love them. I’ll post some pictures later tonight.
Looking forward to the photos!
Apr 20, 2009 at 11:08 pm #57374Darrin Terry
MemberI’ll be looking forward to pics as well. A friend does well on the bass with wacky rigged worms. I’ve been rolling ideas around my head on how to create a fly for that action for a month or so. Nothing off the vise as my tying desk has been taken over by rod building for about 6 weeks now. Three more rods to finish, then I can get to tying again.
Apr 21, 2009 at 5:07 pm #57375Ronnie Moore
MemberSorry about the delay. Flies at home, camera at work. Also sorry about the quality but it should give you an idea of what I’m doing. The orange work is made from Hareline’s Large Trilobal Antron Chenille. The tan worm is made from yarn picked up at the craft store.
The craft yarn is a lot softer but doesn’t “spring” back into shape in the water as well as the chenille. But I have had success on both.
They are pretty easy to tie but sometimes you are going to wish you had three hands. I start by tying the material into one side of the hook and then furl one side, tie it in and then complete the other side.


Apr 21, 2009 at 6:14 pm #57376Darrin Terry
MemberSo, Ronnie, you are just twisting the chenile about itself? 😕
I had been thinking of twisting/braiding chenile around a piece of heavy mono/fluoro or even light wire to get the springy action. :-/
Nice. Looks like I was thinking along the right lines anyway. 🙂
Apr 21, 2009 at 6:31 pm #57377Mike Anderson
MemberI’ve done something similar. Take two magnum bunny strips and a piece of 20 pound wire. Glue the wire in between the strips when you glue the strips together (this keeps the bunny strips rigid and keeps it from fouling). I tied mine about 8″ and fish it like a soft plastic (slugo). It’s heavy when wet but looks great. To tie it wacky just figure 8 it on the hook at the mid point.
You’ll need a shooting head style line to really cast it well.
Apr 21, 2009 at 7:15 pm #57378Ronnie Moore
MemberDarrin, yes the material is just twisted up on itself. It’s hard for me to explain. Take a piece of chenille in your hands. Hold the ends apart and start twisting one end. Twist until you can start felling the material tighten up, then move the ends together. It all just twists up on itself.
Mike, I have thought about adding wire but always thought it would make it a lot harder to cast and create more tangles. I’m not sure what 20 pound wire is, is it flexible at all?
One thing you can do when furling the material is twist it up real tight. It gives it a stiffer body with lots of spring.
Apr 21, 2009 at 8:50 pm #57379Neal Osborn
MemberThat’s pretty cool stuff Ronnie.
Apr 22, 2009 at 1:23 am #57380Jim Witham
MemberGuys,
thanks for the ideas. The rubber worms I have the most success with are a color called watermelon–very dark green with sparkly red flecks. I’ll bet there’s a way to reproduce that effect with a fly. It’ll just take some playing around with materials.Apr 22, 2009 at 2:16 am #57381Ronnie Moore
MemberJim, I always had success on a watermelon colored worm too. I think the ones I had were dark green with black specks. The closest I have been able to come is a yarn that matches the green but the specks are silver. I tie these with the same furling method but they are tied onto the hook straight. I fish them on the fly rod with a split shot and try to keep that weight just bouncing along the bottom of the stream. Those smallmouth will just kill it.
Apr 22, 2009 at 3:52 am #57382
Tim AngeliMemberYou might have some luck at attaining something close to the desired effect of the watermelon soft plastic by twisting together dark green chenille with some estaz cactus chenille in whatever color you want the sparkles to be.
Apr 24, 2009 at 12:44 am #57383Jim Witham
MemberTim,
May 3, 2009 at 5:58 pm #57384Jim Witham
MemberTook a bunch of the wacky worm flies I tied up to my local creek to test them out. They cast OK and seemed to have good action in the water but after about three casts most of the fuzz on the chenille had melted away and I was chucking bare thread on a hook. I was using the same kind of chenille I use for wooly buggers but I guess the thread wrapping around the chenille on the hook shank keeps the fuzz in place. I guess it’s back to the drawing board.
May 4, 2009 at 7:57 pm #57385Ronnie Moore
MemberJim,
I should have mentioned the problem that you had earlier. Yes there are types of chenille that will not work, same goes for the yarn. Others will hold to the furling process with no problems. You can check the material by twisting it back and forth in your fingers. If it starts to come apart then it won’t work. I have had the best luck with Hareline’s Large Trilobal Antron Chenille, it will not come apart on you.
May 6, 2009 at 11:44 am #57386Jim Witham
MemberThanks, Ronnie, I’ll give that stuff a try.
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