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  • #6433
    Neal Osborn
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    Tim,

    Here are a few pics of the Hairy Fodder fly I discussed earlier on another thread.  This is a great fly and soon becoming one of my favorites.  Full credit goes to  Craig Reindeau http://www.warmfly.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=460.0.  I met Craig at the shallow water expo in Atlanta earlier this year and then again at the SE FFF conclave.  Great guy and very helpful if need assistance.  

    The fodder fly employs a 60 degree jig hook which is a bit different but very successful.  It rides hook point up and avoid snags.

    #56230
    Aaron Otto
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    Thanks Neal, looks like a great bug. A

    #56231
    Neal Osborn
    Member

    Here are a few more Fodders I tied up for the carp fly swap. Added here for completeness of the thread.

    Three wise men.

    Crawfish Fodder, size 6.

    #56232
    Avatar photoTim Angeli
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    Thanks Neal!

    #56233
    Neal Osborn
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    Tim, how are you tying the heads?

    #56234
    Avatar photoTim Angeli
    Member

    I’ve just been using regular dumbell eyes, and I haven’t been using the 60 degree jig hook either because I don’t have any.

    #56235
    Avatar photoTim Angeli
    Member

    Neal,

    I’ll try to post some pictures tonight.

    Thanks,
    Tim

    #56236
    Neal Osborn
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    60 degree hooks – use Eagle Claw 410 (freshwater) or 413 (saltwater).

    #56237
    Avatar photoTim Angeli
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    I’ll have to place an order.

    #56238

    Neal,
    Is all the fur you are using cross-cut? If so, where are you getting cross-cut in those colors? Can you also elaborate on the rubber piece that holds the eyes, i.e. where to buy it or from what other material you made it.

    Thanks Neal,
    Dusty

    #56239
    Avatar photoTim Angeli
    Member

    Neal,

    Here is a quick picture of one of the Hairy Fodders that I tied up.

    #56240
    Neal Osborn
    Member

    Tim, that is a good first attempt at the fodder fly.  A couple of comments . . . avoid wrapping the rabbit strip in front of the eyes b/c that will create a whole different profile underwater.  You want to wrap the crosscut strip in even wraps until you get behind the eye and then take one extra wrap/turn to give a “liitle” extra bulk and then tie off.  Also, it is best to use mono tying thread for this fly.  Hint, coat the shank with superglue before you start wrapping, it’s kind of an important salient feature of the fly and keeps the fur from slipping over time.  Finally, you need to tie in two different lengths of legs, one group longer than the other – this creates the tapered body profile underwater. If all the legs are the same length, the fly just looks tubular and thus less alive.

    #56241
    Neal Osborn
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    Dusty . . . I buy my crosscut rabbit strips at the local fly shop or online. Bearsden http://bearsden.com/page106.html has some of the best selection of fur available on the internet IMHO.  LOTS of colors and specialty stuff, shop around and have fun.  They have a great selection of two-toned rabbit strips that are crosscut and these are what you see in the pictures above that give that “multi-colored” look to the fodder flies.

    You can get some really cool outcomes with the two toned natural colored strips.  

    The rubber head tubing is a specialty product that Craig has developed.  It is my understanding that he is trying to market the material but I have no details as of yet.  He gave me a bunch to play with so I’m set for now.  Sorry, lame answer I know.  Email him if you have any questions about how to get some.  Hopefully he will have a manuscript out soon with full details.

    #56242
    Michael Exl
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    Neal,
    The you just posted is the best color combination I have seen so far. That one would be perfect for carp.

    -Mike

    #56243
    Neal Osborn
    Member

    Thanks Mike.

    #56244

    Thanks for the info Neal! I have used Bear’s Den before; I’ll take a look next time I make an order.
    D.

    #56245
    Avatar photoTim Angeli
    Member

    Thanks for the suggestions Neal.

    #56246

    Neal,
    in some of those pics the hook, near the eye, looks to have a 45 degree bend and in others it looks to have a 90 degree bend. Do you think it matters which hook is used? I bought some eagle claw jig hooks this weekend, and they all have 90 degree bends.
    D.

    #56247
    Neal Osborn
    Member

    Dusty,  the hooks are Eagle Claw 410-413 (fresh-salt respectively).  They are 60 degree hooks.  See link below.  It actually does make a difference which degree you use.  The 90 degree hooks are more traditional jig hooks for weighted lures and will not give the same movement underwater as the 60 degree hooks.

    Order a few and experiment – they are dirt cheap and come in 100.

    http://www.do-itmolds.com/prodhooks.aspx?c=98

    #56248

    Thanks Neal. I’ll return what I got and get some of these. You got 5 sizes: 1/0, 1, 2, 4, & 6?
    Dusty

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