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Jul 10, 2009 at 6:08 pm #4851
Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerHey dudes –
I just wanted to point something out; it’s probably the English major in me coming out.
Jul 10, 2009 at 6:52 pm #42680Tim Pommer
MemberStop deleting my responses you fascist.
Jul 10, 2009 at 6:53 pm #42681Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerHaha, I’ve got the big red button…
Jul 10, 2009 at 6:57 pm #42682Tim Pommer
MemberPlease, fill my head with more useless fly fish knowledge.
Jul 10, 2009 at 7:02 pm #42683Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerHahahah.
Jul 10, 2009 at 11:04 pm #42684cory johnson
MemberZach,
you referenced style sheets in your first post in this topic.
Jan 21, 2010 at 12:33 pm #42685keith b
MemberZach,
Thank you for the information.Jan 21, 2010 at 2:37 pm #42686kathy scott
MemberThanks for posting this.
Maybe it’s my former English background as well, but I certainly notice the confusion relating to the use of rod maker and rodmaker.
Jan 21, 2010 at 3:02 pm #42687Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerHey Kat –
Compound words have always been with us in English – that’s our old Anglo-Saxon roots coming out. Personally, I like to compound words like rodmaker together. However, I think technically, you’re supposed to use them separately as an adjective (rod) modifying a noun (maker). This doesn’t bother me nearly as much as the stuff I mentioned in the initial post, which is a an adjective modifying another adjective modifying a noun (“fly fish fisherman”).
If someone claimed to be a cane rod rodmaker, I would probably roll my eyes, but just plain ‘rodmaker’ doesn’t bother me (or even ‘bamboo rodmaker’ or ‘cane rodmaker’ which are at least adjectives modifying a compound noun).
Zach
Jan 22, 2010 at 12:57 am #42688anonymous
MemberWhile not claiming to have anything other than my grade 12 high school english background to fall back on –
Jan 22, 2010 at 2:45 am #42689Zach Matthews
The Itinerant Anglercalling something a “fly fish website,”
One of the good website optimization strategies is to incorporate the most popular keyword phrases used by your targeted audience throughout your web page content. The more precise you are to matching the phrase exactly the better the odds on improving your natural search engine listing positions. So some will use the phrase “as is”, even if it is poor grammah.
Also, if you do keyword tracking you would be amazed at all the variations that people use when searching.
Feb 2, 2010 at 1:47 am #42690Phil Monahan
MemberNow, wait a minute. Y’all bought that idea that American Angler uses “flys” instead of “flies”? That’s just silly.
I think Zach is misremembering. The AA style sheet calls for the use of “drys” instead of “dries” for the plural of “dry” (meaning single dry fly). Example: “I asked him if he was fishing drys or nymphs.” The reason for that is that the word “dries” is confusing in some contexts in which you’d find it in a fly-fishing magazine. Also, the word “dry” is an adjective which stands in for the noun phrase “dry fly.” We don’t have plural adjectives in English, so the y-to-ie rule wouldn’t really apply. But that’s some arcane shizz right there.
I would argue that the AA style sheet, originally written by the great Art Scheck, with only minor tweaks by me, should be the ultimate authority on fly-fishing usage.
Feb 2, 2010 at 1:52 am #42691Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerOk, I may be misremembering.
Feb 2, 2010 at 2:05 am #42692Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerOh, and re: John’s point about keyword tracking: I do look at what search terms people use to get here and they are frequently hilarious. ‘Itinerant’ was obviously a terrible choice for the title of a website (I wanted ‘Wandering’ but it was taken). It does convey a certain air of sophistication, which is nice, but I’d say that’s pretty offset when a good 40% of your users search you up as follows:
“itinerent”
“intinerant”
“intenerant”
“intenerent”
“itinirint” (my personal favorite)
and…
“internet”No, this is not the Internet Angler. 🙂
Zach
Feb 2, 2010 at 2:38 am #42693Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerOh, and re: John’s point about keyword tracking: I do look at what search terms people use to get here and they are frequently hilarious. ‘Itinerant’ was obviously a terrible choice for the title of a website (I wanted ‘Wandering’ but it was taken). It does convey a certain air of sophistication, which is nice, but I’d say that’s pretty offset when a good 40% of your users search you up as follows:
“itinerent”
“intinerant”
“intenerant”
“intenerent”
“itinirint” (my personal favorite)
and…
“internet”No, this is not the Internet Angler. 🙂
Zach
When I first saw the link to this website I was wondering if somebody misspelled “Internet”. ;D
Go to the link below and type in “Itinerant” and click get keyword ideas (Don’t see Angler with it.)
https://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordToolExternal
Try “dries” too. I guess our niche isn’t too popular except with us fly fishing “Internet” anglers. 🙂
Feb 2, 2010 at 5:53 pm #42694Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerHey John –
There is one advantage however: Google ‘itinerant.’
Feb 2, 2010 at 9:21 pm #42695
Mike McKeownMemberRight, confession time…
I am dyslexic, on my last spelling “test / check” I got my highest marks ever, Grade 9 and a half! whats that like a 14 year old? let alone my grammah, ooohhhh that is poor.
So thanks Zach, you’ve just gone and made me even more confused.
I fish, with a fly, there for I am a Fly Fisherman??? Flyfisher Man???
I fly fish, therefore I am fly-fisherman, no fly fisher man, flyfisherman????
Oh screw it, “I can like to catch a fish with a fly fishing stick…”
Interesting post, thanks Zach
Feb 3, 2010 at 12:04 am #42696Zach Matthews
The Itinerant Angler
Oh screw it, “I can like to catch a fish with a fly fishing stick…”Perfect… me too (Sorry I can’t use exclamation points anymore, per the other writing thread.)
Zach, you are numero #2 in the Google Suggest dropdown listings when you type: Itinerant. Directly below the phrase: “itinerant definition” and way ahead of “itinerant golfer”. Not sure what any of that to do with fly fishing, but it looks good.
Feb 3, 2010 at 7:39 am #42697
Mike McKeownMember(Sorry I can’t use exclamation points anymore, per the other writing thread.)
Ja, me too, I am now limited to one [glow=yellow,2,300]![/glow] perday, and I just used it… Help
Mar 21, 2010 at 9:47 pm #42698lawrence underwood
MemberThis thread has made my day. I have not laughed this hard in some time.
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