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  • #4603

    How many trips do you make over a period of a few weeks looking for an item that the shop is out of, before you order it online ? I like to give my boys the business but I have a breaking point.

    #40402
    Zach Matthews
    The Itinerant Angler

    Have you tried asking them to order it?

    #40403

    yes, and been in the shop a few times since, always ask, always get the same answer, it should already been here. Can get on ebay and have it overnight if I want to pay the postage.

    #40404
    Avatar photoBob Riggins
    Member

    Carrying inventory is expensive and takes a lot of working capital, particularly for specialty stores like fly shops.

    #40405
    Rob Snowhite
    Member

    what zach said. i was looking for rubber tails (even posted here about it) and rich at urban angler ordered the colors and sizes i wanted.

    #40406
    Michael Exl
    Member

    Totally agree with Bob. If you guys really knew how much money goes into inventory at a shop, well a good shop, you guys would flip. For example we carry most styles and sizes of Tiemco hooks, I did a reorder, granted we still had a good selection and the order was right around a $1000, keep in mind that is wholesale. Now combine that with special orders for people, restocking other inventory, paying employees, bills, and etc. Thats a lot of money at a time.

    But I have to agree with you David I would be getting a little upset about the situation. Our business is a service based industry. If the customer is not happy they will seek there products else where like the internet or near by shops. One thing that you might suggest to the guys is to make a special order once or a month for customers. We do this at our shop. We let everyone know that we will be making an order on a certain date and if they want anything let us know and it will get ordered. Most places like Wapsi and Hareline require a minimum order of less then $100 so its not hard to get a couple of guys together to make this possible.

    By the way what are you trying to get ordered?

    -Mike

    #40407
    Zach Matthews
    The Itinerant Angler

    Well, I think we need to know what you’re ordering, David, because that makes a difference to me.

    #40408
    Dan
    Member

    Haha!  An 11’3″ 2wt?  I hope that was a random grab-bag example and there isn’t some kind of story behind that one.  That would be a pain in EVERYONE’S ass.

    But yeah, I certainly agree with supporting the local guys, but there are some things/times/situations where it’s probably best to just get something elsewhere.  That line will likely be different for everyone, much like pretty much everything else in life.  

    #40409

     Now it comes in, and your shop’s stuck holding an 11’3″ 2 weight or whatever that they can never sell to anyone else…)

    I’ll take it !

    www.dsaphoto.com

    A picture is thousand words that takes less than a second while a thousand words is a picture that takes a month.

    #40410
    Avatar photoMark Schafer
    Member

    Thanks Mike, that’s what I was going to say.

    #40411

    Quick question: How many (mom & pop) fly shops do you have within a 50 mile radius of your location? I’m 30 miles outside Dallas (where Tailwaters is located), and the next closest I know of … 200 miles away. Shannon

    #40412
    Tim Schulz
    Member

    I was thinking about Shannon’s question.  The nearest fly shop for me is about a four-hour drive, so I  have to shop electronically.  I do have a favorite, and, as I would with a local shop, I give them my business first.  They have free shipping for orders over $25, always send me a personal email (not an automated one) as soon as the order ships, and the orders typically ship the morning after I place the order.  When I place an order on Monday night, it is typically in my home on Wednesday.  Of course I’m not constrained by geography, so it is easy to remain loyal in this situation because I was able to do some ‘shopping’ before deciding which store I would adopt as my local store.

    In thinking about my distance from a fly shop, I remembered a map I had seen that was used to determine the place in the continental US that is farthest from a McDonalds:

    Evidently, somewhere in South Dakota is the ‘McFarthest Spot’.  Good or bad depending on your point-of-view.

    I wonder where in the continental US is the place that is farthest from a ‘full-service’ fly shop?  
       

    #40413
    Zach Matthews
    The Itinerant Angler

    I think your proximity to a good fly shop is going to be related to your proximity to good fishing, and, unfortunately, Texas is not known for its fly fishing (maybe unfairly).

    #40414

    Ha, you guys have it easy.

    There’s no dedicated fly only shop in Sydney anymore.

    www.dsaphoto.com

    A picture is thousand words that takes less than a second while a thousand words is a picture that takes a month.

    #40415
    Dan
    Member

    Zach hit the nail on the head regarding areas with no fly shops.

    #40416
    Tim Schulz
    Member

    Fly shops sell to fly fishermen, so most shops are near the fishermen.  This often coincides with proximity to good fishing, but not always.  Fullerton, California has an excellent full-service fly shop;  Marquette, Michigan does not.   If you think Fullerton is a better place to fish from than Marquette, I won’t try to convince you otherwise. “No fish here,” as they say.  😉

    This brings up another thought that is probably better for a new topic thread.  I’ve often wondered how an individual assesses good fishing.  There are many factors that contribute to this, but two of them are the number of fish in the river and the number of fishermen in the river.  Some people will accept a large number of fishermen for an increase in the number of fish; some people will accept a small number of fish for a decrease in the number of fishermen.  For most people, though, I suspect it is something in between.  Everyone is different, of course, so there are no right or wrong answers.  

    Cheers,
    Tim

    #40417

    I think that is accurate, but therein lies the rub. Number one, two and three rules of retail; location, location and location. So, should we have fly shops by a scattered number of fishermen, by a prominent fishing location, or on a busy highway where everyone can see it, and maybe pique their interest by stopping to see what’s inside? Granted the Dallas-Fort Worth area is not a fly fishing hot spot, but has anyone noticed the overall demographics in that area? Huge.
    Shannon

    #40418
    Avatar photoMark Schafer
    Member

    To add another dimension to Shannon’s comment about location if your shop is not located near a great destination than the next best thing is to  be located near a population that has the means to travel. My area of Ohio has reasonable fishing opportunities for Steelhead , Smallmouth, etc  but many of my customers are the  type that take the trips to places like the Keys or the rivers in the west.  

    Tim also hit on a point that keeps many of us smaller guys in business. I have a growing number of customers from all over the county and  in other countries and who express more appreciation for my helping them than many of  the guys in my backyard.
    MS

    #40419
    Zach Matthews
    The Itinerant Angler

    I would agree with Mark, who knows what he’s talking about for sure as he’s in retail.

    #40420

    Here in Central Texas, there are two excellent mom and pop fly shops in my city (Austin), one big box store a few miles south of town (Cabelas), two other mom and pop stores on the Guadalupe (our trout river) which is about 55 miles away.

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