Question about nymphing using a indicator

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  • #4408
    jkillinger
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    Okay, I know when you’re nymph fishing with an indicator, you have to have the fly line behind the indicator to prevent drag which causes an un-natural presentation. will

    #38767
    anonymous
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    Howdy, J.

    Not sure exactly what you are asking, but I’ll take a stab at it.

    Keeping the leader too tight will prevent the fly from sinking out to depth, but tension on the leader can be an effective technique in controlling depth, for instance in a shallow flat and then relaxing tension as the rig reaches the drop off.

    Several kinds of drag can be going on. If I’m fishing in moderate current, I’ll mend at the presentation to put a few feet of leader and line directly upstream of the indicator. Then I maintain the drift with mends in the middle of the line and at the rod tip. This takes care of the horizontal surface drag on the line.

    Vertical drag is caused by differences in current speed in the water column. To counter this, nymphers pay attention to balance in the leader and the fly. Thin leader is less affected by vertical drag. Too much split shot or weight of the fly can constantly hang the fly on the bottom or keep it close to the slow current on the bottom where it slows the drift too much and your indicator races ahead. Too little split shot or weight can allow the fly to be subject to whimsical currents and also make for an unnatural presentation.

    It takes a good deal of experimentation and observation to know how to maintain a good balance in your nymph rig, and this is all dependent on the run and currents in the run, so it’s a very relative thing.

    Hope this helps some,
    Scott

    #38768
    jkillinger
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    The water I was fishing was fast. I didn’t knowif it was possible to have that kind of drag. I had one of those thingamabobber indicators on and I probably had too much weight on the leader, I’m not sure. Getting everything perfect for nymph fishing is difficult.

    -JK

    #38769
    Morsie
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    The least effective presentation is to turn the leader over straight, especially in current and especially if you want to get the nymph(s) deep. Lengthen the tippet use fluorocarbon and try to get some slack between the indicator and the fly so it can sink unhindered. Open your loop up that’ll help prevent the leader from turning over dead straight.

    Morsie

    #38770
    Avatar photoclark reid
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    Yep, what Morsie said… it does sound like you are using too much weight for the length you have between the nymph and the indicator… either lengthen the tippet or lighten the fly depending on the circumstances… this can change from pool to pool, run to run and riffle to riffle and is half the fun of nymphing.

    You can judge a man by the size of things which annoy him.

    #38771
    bill heffner
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    Yep, what Morsie said… it does sound like you are using too much weight for the length you have between the nymph and the indicator… either lengthen the tippet or lighten the fly depending on the circumstances… this can change from pool to pool, run to run and riffle to riffle and is half the fun of nymphing.

    Clark is right.  you always have to make adjustments when nymphing.  I try to have about 6 to 8 inches between my fly and my first weight.  Then you can stagger your weight like the center pin guys do.  I also try to keep as mush line off the water as possible to eliminate drag.  There are many styles of nymphing, one style will not fit all conditions.  That is the fun of nymphing!! 😀

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