Scott Warm Water Rods
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Does anyone own or have any experience with the Scott Warm water series of rods. They are in that sub 8′ arena like the Sage Bass rods. I heard somewhere that Scott actually came out with the idea for the sub 8′ warm water type rod first, but that Sage’s marketing has been more effective making it seem like they started the idea. Anyway, I was wondering if anyone has used one and if you would share your thought/comments. Also, I learned on another board that Scott stills makes an exclusive G series rod for Harry Murray’s shop. I went to Murray’s website and sure enough they carry an exclusive Scott G series bass rod in 7 and 8 wt. Anyone familiar with these rods and can you comment on them? What about an A3 series rod for bass?
Here is a review from another site…
http://www.flyfishohio.com/Bass_Rod_Review.htmThe turn on for me about the Sage vs. Scott warmwater rods is that the Sage includes a line specifically designed for the rod and also sells for quite a bit cheaper.
For what it’s worth, I use a 908 S4 for much of my warmwater fishing and have zero complaints.
Shane,
I have the WW #6 weight, which I use for bass, perch and bream down here in Australia. I love this rod – it’s great for accurately throwing big flies. The #6 is well behaved and clean casting – it feels a lot to me like the HP series of years past. We commonly cast in amongst timber and under jetty’s/around moorings etc. I’ve cast the #8 and the action felt identical, but haven’t seen the #10 yet.
I just use standard fly lines, no problems. The fish below is a black bream from the Melbourne area, using a WF#6I Rio Aqualux on the Scott WW #6 – caught in tight amongst the snags.
Agree with many of the comments regarding using standard rods for this kind of work… They work fine too. The A3 is a med/fast action but you can’t get one in 8′. The shorter rods are real handy in tight quarters though, and if you want to enter tournaments.
Best advice is to try as many as you can and get the rod (s) that suit you best.
Best Regards,
Beechy
Shane,
like Chris I have the WW 6 weight. I use it for sea-run browntrout on the coast with either a standard WF or a SH cut for the application -I prefer choosing the line to fit the fishing myself.
It is a great little rod that I find myself using more and more, especially in very windy conditions. Very effective and heaps of fun to cast. I find a 9 foot rod more versatile, but as a second rod the WW is perfect.
I believe the Scott WW series were introduced a year before Sages BASS rods.
Regards,
MartinWell, Scott came out with the 7’7″ 9wt called the Backcountry Special. Then expanded on the short rod deal with the WW series. The plus side of not having a rod that needs a special line is that you can use a tropical or cold water taper on the rod depending on where/what time of year you are fishing. Also, the Sage line is a basically a floating shooting head taper that will help load the shorter, stiffer rods. Not taking anything away from the Sage. Several folks have them and like what they do.
For big big bass poppers, the Scott WW 10wt is closest to the Sage Largemouth (10/11 wt by grain weight standards). The biggest thing most folks tell me between the two is the Scott will load in closer. The Scott feels a lot softer than the Sage in hand, but trust me, there is a ton of backbone in that rod. I’m fishing the 8wt and like it. Great river smallmouth and largemouth pond rod. Tosses the big hair bugs easily and I can really throw some super trick casts in the way back for those “catch the fish or lose the fly” gambles.
The A3 8 1/2′ 8wt is a cool rod. I’ve been fishing my sample a lot. It is great for picking up big bugs and putting them back on the water with no false casting. Here’s the deal, ideal casting distance for this rod is 40-50′. It’s not meant for booming out super long casts or for throwing shooting heads. It’s meant for feathering casts under overhangs, banging banks, and loading super close for pockets and stumps.
That Clouser Rod from St Croix is a cool stick, too.
James
Your friendly Scott Rep in the South
I just want to chime in and say that I am happy that both Sage, Scott and St. Croix opted to make shorter rods in the first place.
9 foot standard? I thought it was 10. A 9 is short. Hahahaha.
I agree Zach. I think the influence and design of rods shifted to the West, and away from the East where short rods were the vogue for so long. A fast action 9 foot six may make a terrific streamer rod from a drift boat, but on Saturday I found myself fishing one of my local waters and wishing I had one of those “warm water” type rods to pick up and lay down streamers easily in tight quarters. Its an internal debate because I am concerned about the loss of mending ability, but a load into the butt and one back cast sounds awfully nice.
On that note…
We have some in the shop, they are nice sticks. I personally think Scott over priced them, but they are good rods. My boss has fished them for largemouth in Mexico and loves them. He fished both sinking and floating lines and had no issues.
A good caster can use almost ANY fly line on ANY rod, its simply a matter of adjustment. But most prefer the “ideal” – the line that comes with the Sage bass rods is a very effective combination and about as close to ideal as you can get.
Back in the late 90’s Scott built a 6 weight that was a update on the rod that they built for Lee Wulff. It was a Heli-Ply and I think it was 6’7″ or 6’9″ in length. I cast one and it was a really nice rod. I cast much further with it than I expected and I feel that it was a very accurate casting rod.
Rods 8’9 and shorter just feel lighter in hand than 9 footers and feel a little crisper. Lines make a huge difference as well and can really have a huge impact on feel.I own the G 706-3 the HP 669-3 (that is broke and going for repair), the BCS 779-3 and will order a WW 806-3 (that previsouly had one but this crazy friend of mine offered me a good sum of money for that I could not sell it ;D )
After using short rods a 9 feet rod becomes terrible in hand, it is just too much length, too much weight to carry around the air.
8’8″ is my max length, maybe use it for very large rivers.
The WW 806-3 is probably the best largemouth bass (# 2 flies) rod around.
I sent a message to Scott asking them to build a special series of Brazilian Special for this rod – like the japanese special G2 – but they never replied 😛Im a great fan of Scott rods because they think different.
Hopefully one day this short rod situation will come full-circle so manufacturers will again make shorter 4-5 and 6 weight rods that load close in.
They sure were great rods for point-and-shooting big flies under the rhodo’s!I’m a fan of Scott rods, though I haven’t tried the Scott warmwater series so can’t comment on them, but I have a Sage Bluegill rod here to review and it’s awesome, not just for the rod, but the line as well.
The line and rod work together better then any other rod & line I’ve cast for it’s intended purpose.
It has serious feel and is very accurate.
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