Stocked Taimen or Huchen?
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Jul 25, 2007 at 8:58 pm #2233
Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerHey everyone –
I am curious whether Taimen or Huchen have ever been stocked in any American water.
Jul 25, 2007 at 9:16 pm #18166Carter Simcoe
MemberNot the worst idea I’ve ever heard, it’s not like they are going to spread anywhere from southern tail-waters.
Jul 25, 2007 at 9:31 pm #18167Tim Pommer
MemberI cant imagine what the snaggers would do to those fish.
Jul 26, 2007 at 1:27 am #18168Gary Grossman
MemberAlthough I understand your logic Zack, from a biological perspective it would be very unwise to bring a large piscivorous salmonid to the US.
Jul 26, 2007 at 1:38 am #18169Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerOoh, Gary, I may just do that.
Jul 26, 2007 at 1:46 am #18170Gary Grossman
MemberZack dude, ya can’t just think of trout.
Jul 26, 2007 at 2:32 am #18171anonymous
MemberHumms Zach- there
Jul 26, 2007 at 2:42 am #18172Carter Simcoe
MemberI doubt it ever happens but there is nothing at all natural or native about a southern tailwater trout fishery to begin with.
Jul 26, 2007 at 3:41 am #18173grant schofield
MemberJames Prosek mentions in Trout of the World that there was an attempt to stock Huchen in England and in the North East USA to replace Atlantic Salmon, but it was unsuccessful. I too had the same question a few months back and couldn’t turn up any information online. I am sure all the info is tucked away in a thesis somewhere.
Grant
Jul 26, 2007 at 4:04 am #18174Carter Simcoe
MemberI am sure all the info is tucked away in a thesis somewhere.
Your probably right about that man.
Jul 26, 2007 at 12:28 pm #18175Gary Grossman
MemberCarter, IMO there are some misconceptions in your post.
Jul 26, 2007 at 1:52 pm #18176Steve Dally
MemberIts funny reading this is like the debate going on in my head over this.
The fish rat side is going “”oooh big fish just down the road”” _ I live a mile from the White in Arkansas.The greenie side is going “don’t you dare introduce foreign fish at the top of the foodchain, knucklehead”.
“Listen hippie, you won’t be squarking when I get a 30pound taimen eating mouse patterns”
“Hey what have you been smokin. there is still smallies, and walleye in the white, particularly in summer, then what about all the scuplin and trout. Shoot taimen would take 20″ trout for lunch”
“But But But they are big and … ah hell your a weenie Im going fishing …. “
😮 😮 😮 😮 😮 😮
Cheers
SteveJul 26, 2007 at 1:59 pm #18177Gary Grossman
MemberThat was funny Steve, and even I hear that fish rat voice some days
Jul 26, 2007 at 2:31 pm #18178Carter Simcoe
MemberThey’ve got landlocked Sockeye Salmon in one south eastern waterway which lots of guys daydream about but the crazy fishermen been able to spread those everywhere.  There are lots of other power plant lakes outside of Texas that I’m sure guys wouldn’t mind hauling double-digit redfish out of too.
You make some good points, especially regarding disease, but I’m sticking with my opinion.  They already destroyed those fisheries when they starting blasting rock and pouring concrete.  Everything that has followed:  the introduction of non native plant life and the stockings of trout, stripers, hybrids, musky, and whatever else has all been one big science experiment. Â
Anyway I’m just arguing the point that I wouldn’t mind the study and consideration, not for the immediate dumping of fry in all the rivers, not that I think it’s ever going to happen anyway. Â
I’m a long haired, bearded, left-voting, granola-eating, eco-hippie that is normally all over this sort of thing but I could care less what goes on in the coldwater section of a southern tailrace, short of run off and chemical problems.  I realize that is probably narrow-minded and likely puts me in the minority here but that’s my take on it.
That’s a good call on getting JSTOR access at the public library; I’m going to check that out.
Jul 26, 2007 at 8:04 pm #18179Tim Pommer
MemberFirst, I am not arguing with anyone’s opinions here.
Jul 27, 2007 at 12:45 am #18180Mike Cline
MemberThere’s nothing glamous about Yellow Perch or Red-Eared Sunfish (Shellcracker), but some idiiot illegally planted Yellow Perch in Yates Reservoir on the Tallapoosa River
Jul 27, 2007 at 5:06 am #18181john switow
MemberHard to believe the perch can out compete the shellcracker.
Jul 27, 2007 at 2:14 pm #18182Robert Warren
MemberThere is a very interesting article in the latest Smithsonian that I think contributes to this discussion.
Jul 27, 2007 at 2:36 pm #18183Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerRobert –
Welcome.
Jul 27, 2007 at 5:31 pm #18184Mike Cline
MemberHard to believe the perch can out compete the shellcracker. Â They are aggressive and breed like rabbits don’t they? Â You would think the water would get too warm for perch.
This particular reservoir (Yates) on the Tallapoosa is only 7 miles long and a direct tailwater of Lake Martin (a depth of 155′ at the dam).
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