Casting mechanics question
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Feb 8, 2006 at 3:37 pm #1095
brian dunigan
MemberAusable’s question got me thinking about one of my own.
I’m wondering about the proper approach for effectively casting sink tips. When streamer fishing on local waters, I typically use a 350 grain sink tip – I believe the head is 25 ft. I am throwing this on a 9′ 8wt Sage Fli rod.
My problem is that I throw a lot more tailing loops with this line than I do with a regular WF8F line. Tailing loops and wind knots really become a problem for me with the sink tip, especially when there’s a little wind. The loops are most problematic on long casts, but when you’re streamer fishing big water with a sink tip, just about all of the casts are long casts.
After a great deal of trial and error (mostly error), I think I’m gradually starting to learn to avoid the tailing loops, but it’s hard. It seems like I can avoid a tail if I bring my backcast a lot farther back than what I feel is natural for the distance I’m casting. I almost have to extend the rod directly out behind me.
This seems to cure the tailing loop, but it doesn’t necessarily feel “right.” I may be opening my loop up too much. I’ve also considered that maybe the act of holding the rod back further just tends to counteract “creep” in my cast.
Feb 8, 2006 at 4:22 pm #10769Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerBrian-
Extending the stroke will pull open loops that would otherwise tail.
Feb 8, 2006 at 4:28 pm #10770Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerAllright, check this out:
http://www.itinerantangler.com/flyfishingtoday/beginner2.htm
The mechanical principles remain constant even across different rod weights and types, but heavier or more complicated setups can exacerbate existing casting idiosyncracies and cause trouble.
Zach
Feb 8, 2006 at 5:25 pm #10771brian dunigan
MemberThanks.
Feb 8, 2006 at 9:58 pm #10772bryan hulse
Memberbd,
I hope this doesn’t sound insulting, but are you trying to airialize too much line? Simply leaving all but the first 15′ to 20′ of line on the water should be more than enough to load your rod, then you can shoot the rest with just a haul or two.
This has been my experiences with sinking/intermediate lines.
Bryan
Feb 8, 2006 at 10:27 pm #10773brian dunigan
MemberI don’t think I’m picking up more than 15 or 20′ of line off the water on the initial back cast.
Feb 8, 2006 at 11:06 pm #10774Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerBD-
You are probably exactly right as to the cause.
Feb 9, 2006 at 1:22 am #10775brian dunigan
MemberLike I said before, at some point I’ll probably invest some time in some casting lessons.
Feb 9, 2006 at 1:48 pm #10776Rusty Garoutte
MemberZach…thanks for the board.
Feb 9, 2006 at 2:27 pm #10777Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerHa ha, yeah, Okieff, you’re in the right place.
Feb 9, 2006 at 6:47 pm #10778Rusty Garoutte
MemberBoy am I blind 8). I thought I had looked at everything here. Anyway, thanks.
Here is my next thing I might have to do.Feb 9, 2006 at 6:55 pm #10779Zach Matthews
The Itinerant AnglerOkieff-
If you want to mail me a video under 10mb I will help you diagnose what’s going on.
Feb 10, 2006 at 12:05 am #10780Rusty Garoutte
Member;D ;D ;D yeah right.
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